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by Green
November 10th, 2012, 11:54 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Discussion Topic: Why Are Grass and Plants Green?
Replies: 12
Views: 400

Re: Discussion Topic: Why Are Grass and Plants Green?

Green is a special color, no doubt. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have been inspired to use it as my username on this forum. I've been captivated by the color ever since I can remember. I'm into lawn care for the simple reason that grass is green and I like looking at nice green grass. The fact that chlo...
by Green
November 5th, 2012, 7:47 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Any appreciable difference in soil temp effects on KBG/TTTF?
Replies: 5
Views: 907

Re: Any appreciable difference in soil temp effects on KBG/T

An interesting question. I'm sure they must vary...an interesting tag-along question: Does Rye grow faster than KBG and have less cold tolerance precisely because it's growth trajectory is skewed to somewhat warmer temps? It seems to have a narrower range it prefers than TTTF or KBG...experiencing w...
by Green
November 3rd, 2012, 5:13 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

Yes, but there is still conflicting information and questions left unanswered...true winterizer versus winterizer...new vs established lawns and winterizing...downsides, if any of winterizing, etc. I'm looking to be assured by you guys that winterizing new grass is really the best thing to do. And ...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 11:44 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

andy10917 wrote:The soil temperature is more important than the air temperature, but you should get away with one more if it's tomorrow.
Very well, then. Thanks, Andy.
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 11:27 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

Pure Urea (46-0-0) is the best. Beyond that, any fertilizer with a a high "N" (first) number in a fast-release form, applied to supply about 1 lb of Nitrogen per 1000 sq ft. None are explosive. Should be "findable" this time of year. Now, what's your opinion on one more mini dose of organic (Milo) ...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 10:57 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

And the big one...why quick release? I don't get it. Doesn't quick release cause excessive topgrowth as soon as the plant starts to grow again? No. Once top-growth has stopped, the Nitrogen will be moved to nutrient storage in the plant's roots, which remain active for a while (weeeks) after the to...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 10:41 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

First I'll answer your question - yes, synthetics will be the right (and only practical) answer in roughly another week or so. Second, we need to explain the difference between what you'll see as "winterizer" on this site and "winterizer" in the stores. It is a high-Nitrogen late-season (AFTER the ...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 10:39 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

. Is this good advice for newly planted grass? And why is it good advice? What does winterizing really do, and how is the best way to do it in my specific case (what, when, how much)? Also, anything else necessary/recommended to do/apply between now and when I do the winterizer? Green, have you tri...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 10:21 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

Your question indicates that you don't understand the differences in how the processes work for synthetics and Milorganite (or any other organic sources). Synthetics supply ready-to-use nutrients. Organics require an active microherd, which will not be active much longer as the temperatures fall. T...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 10:08 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

HanLawn wrote:winterize.
Best way to do that?
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 9:59 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Re: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

andy10917 wrote:I think that you're at the tail-end of the Milorganite season right now in CT.
Really? You mean adding more won't do much good beyond the next couple of weeks??? I don't know that the grass has gotten enough N (and K and P) yet to handle the winter.

What should I be doing the next month or so?
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 9:53 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?
Replies: 19
Views: 459

Recommended Fall Fertilizing schedule for new lawn?

So, I overseeded 8-10 weeks ago, and it's pretty thick now but the roots are very shallow. I put down 2/3 rate of an ap of synthetic starter fertilizer about 4 weeks after seeding. 2 weeks after that, I put down about 1/4 to 1/2 rate of an ap of Milorganite. About 2-3 weeks after that, I put down th...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 6:20 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?
Replies: 21
Views: 712

Re: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?

Well, if I decide to do anything about it, I'll likely try the CCO for the heck of it next spring since it isn't too expensive and I'll be buying some anyway. And then if I decide to do something real about it, I'll probably use the containing method they use to fight wildfires...try to build a peri...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 5:23 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?
Replies: 21
Views: 712

Re: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?

How many sq ft do you have? Is this all over? Tenacity is $52, but that bottle will last you a while, especially if it's just over a small area. This part of the yard is at least 60x60 ft, probably larger. The affected area is approx 1/8 to 1/4 of that, but I see this light colored grass cropping u...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 5:07 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?
Replies: 21
Views: 712

Re: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?

This is what you see when you stand back:


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Up close, the blades look like KBG in shape, but are light yellow-green as in the pic, and stand above the other grass 4 days after mowing. Whatever it is, it's very lush right now.
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 3:11 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Creeping Red Fescue ID tips? And spreading?
Replies: 10
Views: 1983

Re: Creeping Red Fescue ID tips? And spreading?

And for the lawn anthropologists, here is the breakdown among the lawns in the neighborhood... We bulldozed and renovated almost everythiing last Fall, and planted a 75/25 TTPR/KGB mix (by weight). As I understand it, that should have resulted in theory in a lawn with more KBG than PR going by amoun...
by Green
November 2nd, 2012, 2:16 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Creeping Red Fescue ID tips? And spreading?
Replies: 10
Views: 1983

Re: Creeping Red Fescue ID tips? And spreading?

Not low at all...probably 3 inches during that time period. It just used to flop over from the wheels. So even if the mower was set to 2.5, it was mowing at 3 inches. Shade/sun used to be about 50/50 in terms of hours per day. Fertilizer program wasn't the best at the time, nor was irrigation.
by Green
November 1st, 2012, 7:15 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?
Replies: 21
Views: 712

Re: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?

If it turns out Tiv is really what it is, I'll probably try a version of what tiemco did successfully in another thread... Once the new grass roots deeply by September or so of next year, I'll hit the affected areas with CCO (tiemco said Triclopyr helped weaken his Triv) and then rip it out with a d...
by Green
October 31st, 2012, 3:58 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: Creeping Red Fescue ID tips? And spreading?
Replies: 10
Views: 1983

Re: Creeping Red Fescue ID tips? And spreading?

Watching that grass ID video, I see it's hard to tell the fine fescues apart. If this stuff can spread onto teh driveway, maybe it's creeping red. Also, I notice now, 2 months after verticutting, the new fine fescue that has come up is no longer bunchy looking, but is a number of tiny, individual pl...
by Green
October 31st, 2012, 3:56 pm
Forum: Cool-season grasses
Topic: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?
Replies: 21
Views: 712

Re: How to tell if it's "Triv" or not?

Well, I'm still not sure if it's Triv or Kentucky...One of these days, I'll pull out a little and really look at it. But if it is Triv, there's too much to deal with. Hopefully it will either darken up due to the iron in the Milorganite, or die out in the summer.