The recommendation is to mix these with milogarnite. It is explained in the how to apply the micros guide http://aroundtheyard.com/index.php?opti ... Itemid=118
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Re: Salvas Soil Test 2017 - Backyard
g-man wrote: ↑April 30th, 2017, 10:08 pmThe recommendation is to mix these with milogarnite. It is explained in the how to apply the micros guide http://aroundtheyard.com/index.php?opti ... Itemid=118
thank you. I have read almost all of the how tos... but that one i didnt see!
Ill do that one from now on!
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In all fairness, Andy did instruct you as follows:
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See "Solu-Cal" Added to Recommended "Fast-Acting" Limes, although the term mentioned here is "humic acid" rather than "humate".
Given the above and my reassurance here, yes.
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The Search function is your friend. Bring questions up when you don't understand the material that you found.remember not only I am foreign I knew nothing of lawn stuff.
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I am slowly getting there.
Btw, you stated my soil is very sandy... however it does not look like it (do I need to actually see some sand in the mix or not really?) Soil has lot of rocks, it is a pain usually to dig anything since we find lots of rocks while doing it... it seems to hold moisture for a while.
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Hey Andy,andy10917 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2017, 8:44 amWhether to use a faster-release fertilizer is up to you. It speeds up the process, but requires more caution.
For the Boron and Copper, you buy a box of Twenty Mule Team Laundry Soap from the grocery store and a few lbs of Copper Sulfate from EBay or Amazon. Apply each one at three tablespoons/K every 60 days, as outlined in the Micronutrient Application Guide.
No, and that's why you'll be applying Lime and Epsom Salts. It will take a few years to get the cations right and the pH to follow it into being OK.And regarding pH is ok?
here you stated it requires more caution. Is that because of burning the lawn? I have been reading the forum and I see a lot of others doing Urea throughout the whole summer. Arent we supposed to skip the summer, especially Urea?
If between Urea and slow release there is no differnece in terms of results wouldnt it make sense more to do Urea or am I missing something?
I am doing the plan you specified here with 4lbs of product per K ... can I use Milorganite on the side and how often? Does it matter that due to that we go above the 1lb of N per K per month>?
I was under the impression, that we should use only 4lbs of N per K per season... doing it weekly or biweekly as I see some do here, doesn't it make that number really shoot?
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I'm clearly not Andy.
But I'd really like to ask a question.
Who do you see applying urea weekly year round?
Some have done it in the fall. But I'd suggest that approach is not the year-round norm and it's certainly something I would caution you against.
The other folks who have applied weekly light applications (in the fall) understand there is a risk of over applying if they make a small measuring mistake. That risk could lead them to burn their lawn.
Are you prepared to accept that risk?
For what it's worth, weekly applications of Urea during the summer months here would leave you with a crispy brown (possibly dead) lawn.
But I'd really like to ask a question.
Who do you see applying urea weekly year round?
Some have done it in the fall. But I'd suggest that approach is not the year-round norm and it's certainly something I would caution you against.
The other folks who have applied weekly light applications (in the fall) understand there is a risk of over applying if they make a small measuring mistake. That risk could lead them to burn their lawn.
Are you prepared to accept that risk?
For what it's worth, weekly applications of Urea during the summer months here would leave you with a crispy brown (possibly dead) lawn.
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Wow! So many things to address and clarify.
I never recommend weekly year round, and I never even recommend using a single product year round unless the Nitrogen is along for the ride in a balanced fertilizer remedial program. I try to chide folks that try to twist what I do recommend into what they think or wish I said.
Here are a few overall tenets of regimens I recommend:
- never force the grass to grow in Spring by dumping fast-release Nitrogen. Doing so ups the odds for disease later.
- if the lawn is young, regular light apps of Urea (up to 0.5 lbs/K) are OK from (natural) green-up to about mid-June.
- Milorganite from July 1- August 15th should be light and only applied to irrigated lawns. Non-irrigated lawns shouldn't be forced, but even dormant lawns should receive some water every 10-14 days.
- a "hello, wake up" app of Milorganite at full strength in late August is OK.
- Urea apps after Labor Day are fine, but should be 0.5 lbs/K of N or less per week. This means that a single error shouldn't burn the lawn - it takes two errors in the same area in two successive weeks, which is unlikely.
- don't apply any fertilizer during "The Pause"
- Urea app for final winterizer is after growth has completely stopped for top growth
As TT said, the program is designed to allow the less-experienced member to do it safely, but crazy twisting of the words leads to errors and potential damage.
I never recommend weekly year round, and I never even recommend using a single product year round unless the Nitrogen is along for the ride in a balanced fertilizer remedial program. I try to chide folks that try to twist what I do recommend into what they think or wish I said.
Here are a few overall tenets of regimens I recommend:
- never force the grass to grow in Spring by dumping fast-release Nitrogen. Doing so ups the odds for disease later.
- if the lawn is young, regular light apps of Urea (up to 0.5 lbs/K) are OK from (natural) green-up to about mid-June.
- Milorganite from July 1- August 15th should be light and only applied to irrigated lawns. Non-irrigated lawns shouldn't be forced, but even dormant lawns should receive some water every 10-14 days.
- a "hello, wake up" app of Milorganite at full strength in late August is OK.
- Urea apps after Labor Day are fine, but should be 0.5 lbs/K of N or less per week. This means that a single error shouldn't burn the lawn - it takes two errors in the same area in two successive weeks, which is unlikely.
- don't apply any fertilizer during "The Pause"
- Urea app for final winterizer is after growth has completely stopped for top growth
As TT said, the program is designed to allow the less-experienced member to do it safely, but crazy twisting of the words leads to errors and potential damage.
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