Dolomitic or Calcitic
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Dolomitic or Calcitic
Hi guys,
Let me just say this first, I had a soil test done but it wasn't by Logan Labs.
My question has to do more with the type of lime to use knowing that my calcium to magnesium ratio is about 7:1. My PH level is 5.3. It was recommended that I use dolomitic lime since my magnesium level is low.
I read one of the topics on this site, not sure which one at the moment, that a calcium to magnesium level between 7:1 and 10:1 is good. With that said, should I still apply dolomitic lime?
Thanks!
Let me just say this first, I had a soil test done but it wasn't by Logan Labs.
My question has to do more with the type of lime to use knowing that my calcium to magnesium ratio is about 7:1. My PH level is 5.3. It was recommended that I use dolomitic lime since my magnesium level is low.
I read one of the topics on this site, not sure which one at the moment, that a calcium to magnesium level between 7:1 and 10:1 is good. With that said, should I still apply dolomitic lime?
Thanks!
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Re: Dolomitic or Calcitic
At a low pH and a low calcium to magnesium level, dolomitic lime would be a good choice for the lime to use. There is an excellent article written here by Andy on the different types of lime: https://aroundtheyard.com/index.php?opt ... Itemid=117
If I were in your shoes, with a pH of 5.3, and a calcium to magnesium ratio of 7:1, I think it's likely that you're low on both calcium and magnesium. Accordingly, I'd be inclined to make one application of dolomitic lime this fall according to the directions on the bag, and then in the spring, take a soil sample according the the instructions in the sticky post in this forum at viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9339 and post it here in this forum for free recommendations by the soil gurus here. (I'm not one of them, though!)
If I were in your shoes, with a pH of 5.3, and a calcium to magnesium ratio of 7:1, I think it's likely that you're low on both calcium and magnesium. Accordingly, I'd be inclined to make one application of dolomitic lime this fall according to the directions on the bag, and then in the spring, take a soil sample according the the instructions in the sticky post in this forum at viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9339 and post it here in this forum for free recommendations by the soil gurus here. (I'm not one of them, though!)
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Re: Dolomitic or Calcitic
Dolomitic limes tend to be S-L-O-W. Personally, I'd adjust with Encap and Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate).
However, without seeing the test results (and it not being from Logan), it's hard to say anything about numbers.
However, without seeing the test results (and it not being from Logan), it's hard to say anything about numbers.
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Re: Dolomitic or Calcitic
Or Pennington Fast Acting Lime if you confirm that it has a significant magnesium fraction as discussed here.
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Re: Dolomitic or Calcitic
I'd forgotten all about that thread! Thanks for the reminder, TimmyG! That would be an interesting option to help address the slowness of traditional dolomitic limes that MorpheusPA mentions.TimmyG wrote: ↑October 10th, 2018, 11:30 pmOr Pennington Fast Acting Lime if you confirm that it has a significant magnesium fraction as discussed here.
When my lawn was low in both calcium and magnesium, (and tested as such from a Logan Labs test) the remedy was exactly what MorpheusPA said he would do -- namely, a fast-acting calcitic lime and Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate). I'm very pleased with the results that came about from that.
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Re: Dolomitic or Calcitic
ken-n-nancy - yep, I am indeed low on both calcium and magnesium, though much more on magnesium but within the 7:1 ratio.ken-n-nancy wrote: ↑October 10th, 2018, 6:09 pmIf I were in your shoes, with a pH of 5.3, and a calcium to magnesium ratio of 7:1, I think it's likely that you're low on both calcium and magnesium. Accordingly, I'd be inclined to make one application of dolomitic lime this fall according to the directions on the bag, and then in the spring, take a soil sample according the the instructions in the sticky post in this forum at viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9339 and post it here in this forum for free recommendations by the soil gurus here. (I'm not one of them, though!)
I'd say my calcium level is close to normal. The numbers are probably different form Logan Labs but they are in ppm and were tested as: Ca 100.14 Mg 13.91. The recommended range by this lab (Soil Savy) for each is: Ca 90-175 Mg 15-35. By no means am I implying that this is the recommended range for everyone.
MorephusPA - that's an excellent option and I think that's what I will do, use fast acting calcitic lime and supplement it with Epsom salt. If I can't find Encap, I will go with Sta-Green Fast Acting Lime since Lowes has it. I've never applied Epsom salt before but from what I read, most people usually apply about 2lbs of Epsom salt per 1K ft.MorpheusPA wrote: ↑October 10th, 2018, 6:37 pmDolomitic limes tend to be S-L-O-W. Personally, I'd adjust with Encap and Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate).
However, without seeing the test results (and it not being from Logan), it's hard to say anything about numbers.
Thank you for all your recommendations!
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Re: Dolomitic or Calcitic
Make sure you buy the epsom salt in a garden center or the lawn/garden section of a big box store (or online). The epsom salt sold in the pharmacy section is much more expensive because it's cosmetic grade instead of fertilizer grade.
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