Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

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KnickLeDime
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Location: Capital Region NY
Grass Type: 1/3 Kentucky Blue, 1/3 Fescue and 1/3 Perennial Rye
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Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by KnickLeDime » September 10th, 2019, 8:40 am

Quick update, we are 17 days post overseed. The areas that were covered with peat moss have germinated nicely. I didn't cover the entire 30k sqf lawn with peat moss but only the areas that were very thin or areas that were just dirt due to last years grub damage. Those areas have germinated very nicely.

I'm disappointed in the germination rate everywhere else. I tried many spots just checking between established blades of grass and I'm not seeing much. This is with 3 watering a day for the last 10+ days. Almost 60% of the mix I used is KBG, I know that takes longer to germinate so I'm hopeful I get at least some improvement in the germination between established grass that is still thin in spots.

The thought that nags at me is should I have dethatched or something? I didn't rake the entire lawn by hand but I raked probably for about 4 or 5 hours areas that were sparse or had no grass (again, due to lawn not recovering or spreading yet into the badly damaged sections by grubs). My concern is seed to soil contact in those areas that I didn't rake. It's likely to late now but just eyeballing it, some areas of concern have what I would describe almost like a thin layer of thatch or grass that is dead...I wonder if the seeds just didn't make contact with dirt.

I guess I'll keep watching to see if there are any improvements. I'll post some pictures of what I'm talking about tonight.

KnickLeDime
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Joined: October 24th, 2018, 2:59 pm
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Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by KnickLeDime » September 10th, 2019, 8:19 pm

First the good... This is germination in areas with peat moss coverage.

Checked this evening and to my surprise I started seeing quite a bit of new seedlings. Even between grass blades.


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KnickLeDime
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Joined: October 24th, 2018, 2:59 pm
Location: Capital Region NY
Grass Type: 1/3 Kentucky Blue, 1/3 Fescue and 1/3 Perennial Rye
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
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Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by KnickLeDime » September 10th, 2019, 8:22 pm

Now the bad... I don't understand fully what's happening in these pics. These opened up like this after overseed. I'm concerned maybe because of overwatering etc. It created almost a layer of thatch. I don't want to rake because I'm hopeful seedlings are under there.

Thoughts?

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andy10917
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Grass Type: Emblem KBG (Front); Blueberry KBG Monostand (Back)
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Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by andy10917 » September 10th, 2019, 8:54 pm

Did you put down fertilizer at seed-down time? Straight lines don't happen in nature. A straight line of good grass between two areas of damage say overfertilzation to me.

KnickLeDime
Posts: 114
Joined: October 24th, 2018, 2:59 pm
Location: Capital Region NY
Grass Type: 1/3 Kentucky Blue, 1/3 Fescue and 1/3 Perennial Rye
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Novice

Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by KnickLeDime » September 10th, 2019, 9:14 pm

andy10917 wrote:
September 10th, 2019, 8:54 pm
Did you put down fertilizer at seed-down time? Straight lines don't happen in nature. A straight line of good grass between two areas of damage say overfertilzation to me.
Zero... I swear... Right under that green line you see there may be a like for sprinkler heads. I'll try to confirm tomorrow.


KnickLeDime
Posts: 114
Joined: October 24th, 2018, 2:59 pm
Location: Capital Region NY
Grass Type: 1/3 Kentucky Blue, 1/3 Fescue and 1/3 Perennial Rye
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Novice

Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by KnickLeDime » September 12th, 2019, 6:59 pm

Grass is getting out of control... When is it safe to give it a mow with mulching blades? Here is the current look at seedlings in big open bare spots. Lots of seedlings now between tall grass... Worried they aren't getting sun.

Last mow was 1 day short of 3 weeks ago... 3 watering a day... Grass is booming.

If I'm careful on turns should I attempt it or will I damage seedlings?

Will mulching clipping pile up and choack out seedlings?



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KnickLeDime
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Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by KnickLeDime » September 12th, 2019, 7:02 pm

A few more shots...
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KnickLeDime
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Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by KnickLeDime » September 14th, 2019, 10:33 pm

Went for a mow... Cut tall at 4 inches. Looks beautiful... Best lawn I've ever had. Took extra care to not damage seedlings and went slow... Gentle turns etc.
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andy10917
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Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by andy10917 » September 15th, 2019, 8:58 am

Coming along nicely! How many days is that since germination?

KnickLeDime
Posts: 114
Joined: October 24th, 2018, 2:59 pm
Location: Capital Region NY
Grass Type: 1/3 Kentucky Blue, 1/3 Fescue and 1/3 Perennial Rye
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Novice

Re: Sleepless in Rexford - Scheming

Post by KnickLeDime » September 15th, 2019, 11:52 am

andy10917 wrote:
September 15th, 2019, 8:58 am
Coming along nicely! How many days is that since germination?
Seed down was Aug 31...first signs of germination was around sep 4th...yesterday was 3 weeks post seed down.

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