Discuss how to and whether you should renovate your lawn
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turf_toes
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by turf_toes » September 7th, 2014, 4:47 pm
gryd wrote:ligrass wrote:Looks very nice! What rate did you seed at?
I used the 3 lbs per 1k square feet rate. Wish I had done 2.5 but I had the spreader setting for 3 lbs so went with it. Where the rate is the true 3 lbs per Thousand it seems fine. It's where I accidentally overlapped or plain screwed up that it is coming in too dense. I just hope that it balances out as the grass matures.
I think you'll be fine.
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gryd
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by gryd » September 7th, 2014, 8:31 pm
Pway wrote:Gryd, when you say that when you accidentally overlapped seed and it came in too dense, what is the concern with the density? Is it no air flow and possible disease or competition at a later date among seedlings? Thanks, and great job!
The reason I don't like to seed too dense is that the grass has trouble establishing. A little dense is fine but if you accidentally dropped a bunch of seed in one area the seedlings would crowd each other out and die. I have a spot like that in back where my drop spreader was stuck open. I recently had to manually thin it out because it was going nowhere!
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andy10917
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by andy10917 » September 7th, 2014, 8:43 pm
Also, overly-dense grass is more disease-prone.
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gryd
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by gryd » September 14th, 2014, 8:56 pm
Time for some updated photos. I think I will be mowing this week.
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andy10917
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by andy10917 » September 14th, 2014, 9:08 pm
That is definitely first-rate for a month. That is ready to handle Urea if you are so inclined.
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gryd
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by gryd » September 14th, 2014, 9:22 pm
andy10917 wrote:That is definitely first-rate for a month. That is ready to handle Urea if you are so inclined.
Hi Andy,
Was planning on using more starter. Are there advantages of using Urea? What type of dose do I apply?
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andy10917
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by andy10917 » September 14th, 2014, 9:30 pm
If you have a soil test that says you need Phosphorus, then use Starter. If not, follow the Fall Fertilization Regimen and pick standard or aggressive. Make sure that Sprout-and-Pout is behind you before going to Urea.
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ericgautier
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by ericgautier » September 14th, 2014, 9:34 pm
That is looking good!
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gryd
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by gryd » September 14th, 2014, 9:37 pm
ericgautier wrote:That is looking good!
Thanks!
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gryd
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by gryd » September 14th, 2014, 9:39 pm
andy10917 wrote:If you have a soil test that says you need Phosphorus, then use Starter. If not, follow the Fall Fertilization Regimen and pick standard or aggressive. Make sure that Sprout-and-Pout is behind you before going to Urea.
Thanks Andy. Where is the Fall Fertilization Regimen posted? For reasons unknown I didn't get Sprout and Pout.
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andy10917
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by andy10917 » September 14th, 2014, 9:49 pm
There were numerous people that didn't get Sprout-and-Pout this year.
Here's the Fall Nitrogen Regimens thread:
Fall Fertilization Regimens
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gryd
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by gryd » September 14th, 2014, 9:59 pm
andy10917 wrote:There were numerous people that didn't get Sprout-and-Pout this year.
Here's the Fall Nitrogen Regimens thread:
Fall Fertilization Regimens
Thanks Andy!
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by jglongisland » September 14th, 2014, 10:16 pm
Perfect timing and weather for urea now.
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by Jackpine » September 15th, 2014, 6:15 am
Fantastic!
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by gryd » September 15th, 2014, 8:28 am
Thanks for the feedback guys! This renovation had way higher germination than I've had in previous renovations. Thus far it seems to be establishing way faster than my previous renovations as well. Temperatures probably had something to do with it. The Soil Moist no doubt helped with germination. I did use a heavy dose of BL Soil Conditioner a day before seeding and most of my soil is nice and soft.
I want to point out again that I did not disturb the soil and did not use a mechanical device to seed. I simply spread it, rolled and top dressed. I had some serious doubts that seeding would work without disturbing the soil but now I'm a firm believer in our no disturb the soil renovations. Maybe it was the use of this method that led to my high germination rates and faster establishment? I don't know but I didn't expect to have my lawn back this fast. Even my wife is surprised at how fast it germinated and established.
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turf_toes
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by turf_toes » September 15th, 2014, 8:29 am
Probably helped that you are more experienced now too.
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gryd
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by gryd » September 15th, 2014, 8:57 am
turf_toes wrote:Probably helped that you are more experienced now too.
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Oops. I forgot that factor. Yes, I imagine that makes a difference!
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by nclawnguy » September 15th, 2014, 10:13 am
Looks good!
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by Rokal » September 15th, 2014, 10:59 pm
Looking great. Is it ready for a cut yet?
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by gryd » September 16th, 2014, 10:01 am
Rokal wrote:Looking great. Is it ready for a cut yet?
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Yes. I plan to cut it this week. I just repaired the carb on my push mower. I test it today. If it still doesn't work properly I'll need to find a push mower ASAP.
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