Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by BoatDr » October 21st, 2014, 9:37 am

And it looks as if you could eat leaves too. I aspire to be as successful as you guys! Friggn awesome man.


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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by gryd » October 21st, 2014, 8:29 pm

Thanks for the compliments guys. I definitely like the look so far of my blend. I can't wait to see it next year. I hoping for a very dark green/blue color.

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by gryd » October 26th, 2014, 1:41 pm

Update and question: top growth has slowed a bit but there still is work to be done. Below is a picture from Day 73 that very much resembles the color as seen by the naked eye. I love the color so far and I expect it to be darker next year! It is already darker than the old lawn!

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As for my question; I found some Poa Annua plants yesterday. I figure there has to be more. When Tenacity was first tested and hit the market I remember that it was being used in Fall to set up the Poa for winter kill. Something about removing the waxy, protective coating on the leaves. Has any one attempted this and if so how many times does the Poa need to be treated in offer to set it up for winter kill? Obviously I want to kill it before it goes to seed!
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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by jglongisland » October 26th, 2014, 4:43 pm

We have enough time that I would consider getting a blanket spray of Tenacity down to weaken any nascent poa plants. The lawn will probably grow at least another 4-6 inches over the next month, more than enough to grow out of any bleaching. If you were farther northwest I might say its risky, but being along the water you have plenty of time.

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by jglongisland » October 26th, 2014, 5:24 pm

What height are you mowing at?


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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by j rockford » October 26th, 2014, 5:28 pm

+1 Don't be bashful about tenacity at this point. I am in week three of a program of killing some poa in my reno with blanket sprays and the new lawn is hanging in there just fine. by winter it will likely already be dead.

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by HoosierLawnGnome » October 26th, 2014, 5:38 pm

Yep, I wouldn't hesitate to use Tenacity to take out poa annua with that nice looking reno!

Three 2 oz / acre rate applications at 10 days apart will take a lot of poa annua out. If you do a blanket spray the first time as jg suggested, it might be highlighted enough 10 days later that you just need to do spot treatments.

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by jglongisland » October 26th, 2014, 5:40 pm

Baby poa dies much easier than that which has overwintered.

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Post by gryd » October 26th, 2014, 5:58 pm

jglongisland wrote:What height are you mowing at?
I'm mowing between 2.25-2.5 inches.

Guys, I've never done a blanket spray of Tenacity, I doubt I have the equipment and I wouldn't even know where to begin. I might be a lawn nut and I've probably done everything that gets spoken about on the forum except for one: blanket spray Tenacity. I do have some and have used it for spot treatments in the past but that's about it. Let's just say I'd be willing to do it, I would need advice on what to spray it with and how to spray it accurately. Also, it's October 26th today but I probably won't be able to do this until next Saturday, November 1st. November can be mild, it can also be frigid and if winter comes early will the lawn have the opportunity to recover from the Tenacity?

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by jglongisland » October 26th, 2014, 6:02 pm

I think you would be OK next weekend if you are still cutting off a decent amount each week. No different than applying any other chemical, just need a well calibrated backpack.

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by HoosierLawnGnome » October 26th, 2014, 6:40 pm

You don't have to blanket spray if you can easily identify the poa annua.... you can always just spot spray it....

But I'd still do a blanket spray first if you can because it will highlight it for you and probably be more thorough in getting it all

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by BoatDrinksQ5 » October 27th, 2014, 1:01 pm

I think at lower dosages it's quite easy - just spray enough to wet the grass... done. Although for that large of an area will be a bit of a PITA. I typically am just doing just smaller trouble or 'suspect' areas.

Then come back when whitened and spritz again (or pull?)

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by gryd » October 28th, 2014, 6:20 pm

I have another issue - Rust! The cool, damp weather and slowed top growth has caused an outbreak of rust on my renovation. It is very well fed so hitting it with N is not a solution. Should I treat it or leave it?
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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by jglongisland » October 28th, 2014, 8:05 pm

gryd wrote:I have another issue - Rust! The cool, damp weather and slowed top growth has caused an outbreak of rust on my renovation. It is very well fed so hitting it with N is not a solution. Should I treat it or leave it?
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Most of the biofungicides are pretty good at combating it, but you'd have to spray...

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by gryd » October 28th, 2014, 10:11 pm

jglongisland wrote:
gryd wrote:I have another issue - Rust! The cool, damp weather and slowed top growth has caused an outbreak of rust on my renovation. It is very well fed so hitting it with N is not a solution. Should I treat it or leave it?
Thanks!

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Most of the biofungicides are pretty good at combating it, but you'd have to spray...
Thanks JG! What happens if I just leave it?

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by jglongisland » October 28th, 2014, 10:25 pm

gryd wrote:
jglongisland wrote:
gryd wrote:I have another issue - Rust! The cool, damp weather and slowed top growth has caused an outbreak of rust on my renovation. It is very well fed so hitting it with N is not a solution. Should I treat it or leave it?
Thanks!

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Most of the biofungicides are pretty good at combating it, but you'd have to spray...
Thanks JG! What happens if I just leave it?
Probably nothing.

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by Jackpine » October 29th, 2014, 8:08 am

gryd wrote:
jglongisland wrote:
gryd wrote:I have another issue - Rust! The cool, damp weather and slowed top growth has caused an outbreak of rust on my renovation. It is very well fed so hitting it with N is not a solution. Should I treat it or leave it?
Thanks!

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Most of the biofungicides are pretty good at combating it, but you'd have to spray...
Thanks JG! What happens if I just leave it?
Hard hit areas will thin out a bit but will bounce back in the spring.

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by BoatDrinksQ5 » October 29th, 2014, 9:28 am

I would look at spraying Serenade or similar as a bio-fung option - that way your grass is as healthy as possible going into slumber this winter.

Plus I have some hope of it being good against grey/pink mold when applied in the late fall.

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by gryd » October 29th, 2014, 12:07 pm

Does Serenade work for rust? I like the idea of protecting it from snow mold. Where can I purchase Serenade?

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Re: Gryd's 2014 Front Yard Renovation Take 2

Post by jglongisland » October 29th, 2014, 12:20 pm

gryd wrote:Does Serenade work for rust? I like the idea of protecting it from snow mold. Where can I purchase Serenade?

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Garden Centers and sometimes Home Depot. I don't think its labeled for snow mold but I think some of the users have anecdotal evidence that it helps.

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