RyanBum's NC Reno 2016

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 5th, 2016, 4:31 pm

GeorgiaDad wrote:
ryanbum wrote:Looking fairly uniform. There's a spot roughly 50 sq. ft. That doesn't have as much germination, but the seed is still on the ground. Hoping it's just lagging behind a day or two

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Check to see how much water it's getting. If the coverage is equal. There could be underlining problems that you can address next year.
I think that's the problem. It's the only area that doesn't have true head go head coverage from the sprinkler. If I water extra for that area, I'm afraid it will overwater the edges. Thoughts?

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 5th, 2016, 4:33 pm

probasesteal wrote:Any new mole problems?

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Haven't seen any mole tunnels. I did see a raised mound this morning, but it was a stand alone mound with no apparent ridges or connections to other areas. It looked like a lingering grub to me.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by GeorgiaDad » October 5th, 2016, 4:46 pm

I think that's the problem. It's the only area that doesn't have true head go head coverage from the sprinkler. If I water extra for that area, I'm afraid it will overwater the edges. Thoughts?
Hook up a hose and hand water it.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 7th, 2016, 5:18 pm

A few pictures to share. Day 9 from reseeding and 3 days post first germination. Green fuzz over the majority of the Reno that was damaged, but still having trouble in the one questionable spot we discussed a few days ago. There is some sprouting, but not as much as the rest of the lawn. Hoping this rain we've had all day (and forecasted for tomorrow) helps with it.
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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by probasesteal » October 7th, 2016, 7:38 pm

Tough year huh? I'm still blaming your problems on the PNC across the street.

I'm seriously considering an all PRG seeding next year if mine doesn't work out. Beautiful lawn in 3-5 weeks and when most of it gives way to Late July/August heat you know it's almost times to reseed.


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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 7th, 2016, 7:46 pm

probasesteal wrote:Tough year huh? I'm still blaming your problems on the PNC across the street.

I'm seriously considering an all PRG seeding next year if mine doesn't work out. Beautiful lawn in 3-5 weeks and when most of it gives way to Late July/August heat you know it's almost times to reseed.
Good idea... I'm coming up with my backup plan now. If I hadn't just bought a new ZTR mower, I'd seriously consider going to a warm season grass next year. Every time that thought crosses my mind, I see a nice cool season lawn and there's no comparison IMO.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ericgautier » October 7th, 2016, 7:53 pm

Hang in there ryan! Reseeded areas look good.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by tlinden » October 7th, 2016, 8:57 pm

I'm jealous of all the concrete edging you get to do. The asphalt edge just doesn't look the same.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 8th, 2016, 9:08 am

ANOTHER dumb question:

It rained all of yesterday and last night. How should I manage watering today? Skip it today, once, twice? Open to any advice.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by tlinden » October 8th, 2016, 11:20 am

Skip it until the ground dries out, you don't want soggy soil.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by GeorgiaDad » October 8th, 2016, 3:54 pm

tlinden wrote:Skip it until the ground dries out, you don't want soggy soil.
:good:

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 8th, 2016, 10:18 pm

tlinden wrote:Skip it until the ground dries out, you don't want soggy soil.
That's exactly what I did :good:

Turned it off for the day. Will reassess in the morning!

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by DHorn135 » October 9th, 2016, 7:34 pm

I feel you on the PRG. I'm not sure who did one on here but 30 days and it looked amazing. I'm at 28 and at times am ready to throw in the towel. I will say its amazing to see the difference between KBG and PRG. The builder across the street just seeded a new build and it is so much lighter. Of course it's nothing special so I'm sure you can get darker cultivators.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by probasesteal » October 9th, 2016, 8:29 pm

^If it's light in color, it could be annual rye.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 10th, 2016, 7:16 pm

Day 13 after the second seeding. 80-90% of the yard is filling in exactly as you would expect it to. The bare area does have germination and growth, but nothing like the rest of the yard. It has filled in some, but still evident. I think I'm done seeding for the year. I'm nearly convinced that babying it the way I have been has contributed to a lot of my issues, primarily overwatering from the get go.

Will this TTTF fill in as it matures? I don't mean spread like KBG or a warm season grass, but will it it tiller and fill the voids for an area this large? Any feedback would be appreciated!
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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by GeorgiaDad » October 10th, 2016, 8:29 pm

:yahoo: Bravo. :yahoo:
Will this TTTF fill in as it matures? I don't mean spread like KBG or a warm season grass, but will it it tiller and fill the voids for an area this large?
TTTF is a bunch grass. What it will do is fill-out. As in leaf out. But it will not spread like kbg.

How are you watering now? I would move to every other day. Or even every third day. Time to get those roots digging deeper.
You have some soil issues in that one area. Possibly construction debris buried there. Deal with it in the spring.
Maybe next year use some pgr and drop some midnight kbg to help with repair.

Nice recovery. :good:

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 10th, 2016, 8:44 pm

GeorgiaDad wrote::yahoo: Bravo. :yahoo:
Will this TTTF fill in as it matures? I don't mean spread like KBG or a warm season grass, but will it it tiller and fill the voids for an area this large?
TTTF is a bunch grass. What it will do is fill-out. As in leaf out. But it will not spread like kbg.

How are you watering now? I would move to every other day. Or even every third day. Time to get those roots digging deeper.
You have some soil issues in that one area. Possibly construction debris buried there. Deal with it in the spring.
Maybe next year use some pgr and drop some midnight kbg to help with repair.

Nice recovery. :good:
Was planning to go to once a day starting in the morning. Still having highs in the mid 70s with lows in the high 40s, low 50s.

It's strange, because I've never had any problems in that area before. Here's a picture from September 14th, with no issues growing grass. Sprinklers haven't moved. Would an over application of tenacity prevent germination of TTTF? Picture from a little less than 1 month ago before the grub/tenacity fiasco.

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by Zareth » October 10th, 2016, 8:50 pm

I'm watering every 4 or 5 days at day 35.
Could probably go longer but I water in my urea and go with a good water when I do that.
What's your mow height? Im so conflicted between mowing at 1.5 like I am now or going to 3 for some grace

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by ryanbum » October 10th, 2016, 8:58 pm

Zareth wrote:I'm watering every 4 or 5 days at day 35.
Could probably go longer but I water in my urea and go with a good water when I do that.
What's your mow height? Im so conflicted between mowing at 1.5 like I am now or going to 3 for some grace

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I'm mowing at 2.5" currently, but I've been trying to hold off as long as possible to cut the overseeded areas. It has grown to nearly 5" in the more established areas. I'm gonna have to cut in the next day or two...

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Re: RyanBum's NC Reno 2016: Germinating (Again......)

Post by LoneRanger » October 10th, 2016, 9:04 pm

ryanbum wrote:Would an over application of tenacity prevent germination of TTTF?
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