Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 163? Spring is here?
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG)
Yep, that's poa. I got some in my reno too.
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Count your blessings. You don't have moles, voles, rabbits, squirrels, deer, grubs, poa, neighbors dogs running wild, wife setting up a kiddie pool, flooding, city utilities digging up your lawn, ect..Zareth wrote:Day 20!
Oh lord I've got crabgrass galore.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
Crabgrass is pretty easy to deal with. It's easy to spot and easy to pull. I have pulled over 200 on mine so far.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
Some of them yes, I'll have to take a picture of the worst area when I get off work.seiyafan wrote:Crabgrass is pretty easy to deal with. It's easy to spot and easy to pull. I have pulled over 200 on mine so far.
Anyone know how mature kbg/fescue needs to be before you can use quinclorac?
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Haha much respect for you. I don't have any of those issues right now, luckily the utility company came and did their evilness two months ago.GeorgiaDad wrote:Count your blessings. You don't have moles, voles, rabbits, squirrels, deer, grubs, poa, neighbors dogs running wild, wife setting up a kiddie pool, flooding, city utilities digging up your lawn, ect..Zareth wrote:Day 20!
Oh lord I've got crabgrass galore.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
By the way, out of all the seedlings I pulled out, one had already begun to seed, so make sure you don't have any of that in yours.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
Zareth, you're just begging for trouble. Learn to keep a folder with the labels of all of the products that you use regularly. And make your questions that you post unambiguous and specific. The answer to your KBG/Fescue question is different for KBG than it is for Fescue, and does Fescue mean Tall Fescue or Fine Fescue?Anyone know how mature kbg/fescue needs to be before you can use quinclorac?
Here's a gimmee - the PDF for Quinclorac DF. Your question is answered on Page 11.
Quinclorac Label PDF
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
Posting from my phone so I can't see your location but assuming you get frost the crabgrass should die over winter and your KBG should fill in the holes. Pre emergent applied before soil temps hit 55 degrees should help keep it out. My lawn was infested with it last fall after my Reno and now I don't have any. We all want lawns that look amazing right away but as many have said it takes time. My two cents.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
I don't actually own any products with quinclorac or I would have that info.andy10917 wrote:Zareth, you're just begging for trouble. Learn to keep a folder with the labels of all of the products that you use regularly. And make your questions that you post unambiguous and specific. The answer to your KBG/Fescue question is different for KBG than it is for Fescue, and does Fescue mean Tall Fescue or Fine Fescue?Anyone know how mature kbg/fescue needs to be before you can use quinclorac?
Here's a gimmee - the PDF for Quinclorac DF. Your question is answered on Page 11.
Quinclorac Label PDF
Sorry I assumed if anyone was on this page they'd know what grass I planted.
Thanks for the pdf!
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
There's one area that the crabgrass came in so thick it's like a 2x3 mat of the stuff, I'm not sure how much kbg will make it through all the shade it'll get from the crabgrass.. wish I'd used siduron at seed down..kbgfarmer wrote:Posting from my phone so I can't see your location but assuming you get frost the crabgrass should die over winter and your KBG should fill in the holes. Pre emergent applied before soil temps hit 55 degrees should help keep it out. My lawn was infested with it last fall after my Reno and now I don't have any. We all want lawns that look amazing right away but as many have said it takes time. My two cents.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
Did you start any pots?
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
If you haven't used Quinclorac before, please note that MSO is really not optional - there is a significant difference in performance between Q+MSO and Q-without-MSO.I don't actually own any products with quinclorac or I would have that info.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
I have 15 4 inch pots but I started them late, good call though I can probably put a few of them in that area if I have to.
Ok Ill make sure I use the q+mso if I end up going that route.
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Ok Ill make sure I use the q+mso if I end up going that route.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
Yeah I guess I forgot how much crabgrass my wife and I pulled last year (she did the brunt of the pulling bless her sweet heart), although didn't reseed the large areas and they still filled in this year. It's amazing how much even a no mix that contains KBG can spread. We probably pulled a lot of desirable grass inadvertently as well.Zareth wrote:There's one area that the crabgrass came in so thick it's like a 2x3 mat of the stuff, I'm not sure how much kbg will make it through all the shade it'll get from the crabgrass.. wish I'd used siduron at seed down..kbgfarmer wrote:Posting from my phone so I can't see your location but assuming you get frost the crabgrass should die over winter and your KBG should fill in the holes. Pre emergent applied before soil temps hit 55 degrees should help keep it out. My lawn was infested with it last fall after my Reno and now I don't have any. We all want lawns that look amazing right away but as many have said it takes time. My two cents.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
From what I remember, Quinclorac has only been shown to be effective on crabgrass prior to the three leaf stage. It's really only mildly effective as a pre-emergent but can take also out some of the crabgrass seedlings. Still, it's a great replacement for Tenacity right now because it shouldn't hurt either grass at this stage and something is better than nothing.
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The label I read from Andy said it could be used on kbg that was 28 days post emergence.rtomek wrote:From what I remember, Quinclorac has only been shown to be effective on crabgrass prior to the three leaf stage. It's really only mildly effective as a pre-emergent but can take also out some of the crabgrass seedlings. Still, it's a great replacement for Tenacity right now because it shouldn't hurt either grass at this stage and something is better than nothing.
Most of the crabgrass is 1 or 2 tillers right now with a few at 3.
Here are some pics.
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 20 = crabg
I applied serenade at 4 oz / k yesterday.
Today I noticed some melting in one of the shadier areas where both my sets of sprinklers overlap, so it's getting watered twice as often...
I panicked so I put down fame g which is a strobilurin fungicide.
There was white fluffy stuff on the grass like thin spider webs but I think that was probably a different fungus munching on the dead grass.
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Today I noticed some melting in one of the shadier areas where both my sets of sprinklers overlap, so it's getting watered twice as often...
I panicked so I put down fame g which is a strobilurin fungicide.
There was white fluffy stuff on the grass like thin spider webs but I think that was probably a different fungus munching on the dead grass.
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This has me worried lol. I really didn't want to use fungicides right now after applying sumagrow and serenade..
I cut back to once a day for 45 minutes water today. Anything that hasn't germinated can just forget about it, and would end up getting nuked by the urea in october.
I have thin areas but they'll have to fill in from the spreading.
It's in the 70s finally so should I be doing a mid day watering in case the roots aren't deep enough or should I do it in the early morning?
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Re: Zareth's 2016 Front Yard Reno! (TTTF/KBG) Day 22 = Fungu
Quinclorac has been shown to be safe 7 days after emergence on KBG, and anytime for Tall Fescue: http://buckeyeturf.osu.edu/index.php?op ... Itemid=170
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