2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by STL » August 12th, 2017, 8:22 pm

Nice job! Are the pine pellets for anything specific? Haven't seen them used at seed down before.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by smast16 » August 12th, 2017, 8:25 pm

Here's to hoping for no heavy rains and plentiful drink supply!

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by HoosierLawnGnome » August 12th, 2017, 11:11 pm

Congratulations on seed down, HD!
STL wrote:
August 12th, 2017, 8:22 pm
Are the pine pellets for anything specific? Haven't seen them used at seed down before.
I can't say what HD's purpose is of course, but I used them on a bewitched monostand renovation a few years back as an overall top dressing strategy. My reno went fine.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by HoosierDaddy » August 14th, 2017, 1:33 pm

I'm a firm believer in the pine pellets for the purpose of moisture management. They serve as an amendment like sawdust, but a little easier to apply in my opinion. But their most important role is noted by my heavier than "normal" applications by hand in my hell strips and adjacent to full sun areas near sidewalks. I think they'll be especially important on new seedlings in these areas as the sun bakes them every day.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by llO0DQLE » August 14th, 2017, 2:17 pm

Do you use them instead of peat moss?

Edit: Just read back through the thread and you mentioned using peat. Curious as to how you use pine pellets in conjunction with peat moss. Wouldn't you smother the seeds?


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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by HoosierDaddy » August 14th, 2017, 2:20 pm

No, in addition to peat moss. Pine pellets went down right after seed. Just spread generally around, with hand delivery for problem areas as noted. Everything gets covered by a nice layer of peat with the peat roller.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by llO0DQLE » August 14th, 2017, 10:26 pm

Interesting. Obviously it worked for you but not something I would've thought of. Well, another tool in the toolbox.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by Cheesto » August 15th, 2017, 11:23 am

HoosierDaddy wrote:
July 29th, 2017, 8:42 am
I want the Best Lawn in Fishers. (Sorry g-man!)
HLG is a good one to learn from, and now I've joined in on the fun for Hamilton County renos this Fall.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by HoosierLawnGnome » August 15th, 2017, 11:53 am

HoosierDaddy - Cheesto is the one who tipped me off to my favorite milorganite source! :)

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno- Germination! Green babies!!

Post by HoosierDaddy » August 18th, 2017, 3:13 pm

Green babies!!! :yahoo:
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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by edenl01 » August 18th, 2017, 3:43 pm

:yahoo: Congratulations!

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by HoosierDaddy » August 28th, 2017, 1:39 pm

16 days after seed down and I have very little germination. I'm beginning to worry now.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by HoosierLawnGnome » August 28th, 2017, 7:42 pm

I'd give it a bit more time. Lawns around here are the brownest they've been all year. Maybe Chesto can chime in for comparison?

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by HoosierDaddy » August 29th, 2017, 10:04 am

I am noticing a little more each day. Just not anywhere near what I experienced last year. I'm not quite to panic mode yet, but I'm not too far away either.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by Cheesto » August 31st, 2017, 4:09 pm

Hoosier, did you apply any starter fertilizer?

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by HoosierDaddy » August 31st, 2017, 6:24 pm

I did not apply a starter, but applied bag rate of Milo at seed down.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by edenl01 » August 31st, 2017, 6:42 pm

I didn't use any fertilizer at seed down this year. I've noticed it's a good bit behind visually but the roots are a lot farther along than they were last year at the same days after seed down using a starter.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by Cheesto » August 31st, 2017, 6:48 pm

How can you tell the roots are farther along?

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno

Post by edenl01 » August 31st, 2017, 7:02 pm

I pulled some out to look at them. Last year around the 3 week mark the roots were quarter inch or less. This year they were a good bit beyond that. This is all my opinion based on eyeball observations and nothing more.

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Re: 2017 HoosierDaddy Front Reno- Day 21 pics

Post by HoosierDaddy » September 2nd, 2017, 8:44 am

Here's where we're at on day 21. About 25% of the areas with any germination at all. And I'm concerned about what is germinating on those areas: immediate tillering, no sprout and pout just quick jumps to 2-3 inches. I have bad sprinkler coverage in the front with some areas nearly dry and some with mudslides. I'll post some pics and then a final post asking for help with next steps.

Main front area (zone 1) with some green fuzz but not much. This is the best covered area. Also you can see the mudslides on the left, but the areas in front of the tree nearly dry out before the next irrigation cycle (5 hours)
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This is one of the 3 hell strip areas. Almost zero germination

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