KBGKA side yard new lawn

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by andy10917 » September 2nd, 2018, 10:28 pm

Don't panic - I've had multiple renovations with temperatures to 100, and with proper watering they never even hiccuped.

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by ken-n-nancy » September 3rd, 2018, 9:35 pm

Hoping you managed to dodge the scattered thunderstorms. Was glad to see when I got home to Bedford, NH (after spending the long weekend up in Maine) that no rain fell at our house. Hoping you managed to dodge them, too!

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 4th, 2018, 6:10 am

We missed the thunderstorms thankfully.

My challenge now is I’m on a well and water this much lawn when it’s 90F outside it’s hard to keep up.

WMUR mentioned yesterday NH normally gets 12 90F days per year. We are already at 22 and will have 2-3 more days of it by weeks end.

They also mentioned they are keeping an eye out about 7 days from now for what could be “significant” rain so possible the storm off Florida could loop to the N.E. And soak us. Let’s hope their models are wrong.
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Hoping you managed to dodge the scattered thunderstorms. Was glad to see when I got home to Bedford, NH (after spending the long weekend up in Maine) that no rain fell at our house. Hoping you managed to dodge them, too!

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by ken-n-nancy » September 4th, 2018, 8:02 am

KBGkicksazz wrote:
September 4th, 2018, 6:10 am
My challenge now is I’m on a well and water this much lawn when it’s 90F outside it’s hard to keep up.
Yup. I know how that is - I have our system, which is also supplied by a well, watering 6 times a day with zone coverage that takes about 50 minutes per watering. In the hottest part of the day, it waters every 2 hours, so it's going almost 50% of the time (7:30am, 10am, noon, 2pm, 4pm, 6:30pm). If we had twice as much area to water, we'd be maxed out.
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They also mentioned they are keeping an eye out about 7 days from now for what could be “significant” rain so possible the storm off Florida could loop to the N.E. And soak us. Let’s hope their models are wrong.
Yup. I ignore rain forecasts more than 48 hours out unless it's a hurricane-type system. Anything else is just too unpredictable more than 2 days out and not worth worrying about or counting upon...

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 5th, 2018, 8:04 pm

End of day 4 it’s been 88-90 peak temps.

Getting some green growth like algea about 6-8 feet around the sprinkler heads but nowhere else.

Backing off on water and by tomorrow afternoon temps will drop to seasonal peaks of high 70s finally.

Day 4.5 no seeds popping up yet.


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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by andy10917 » September 5th, 2018, 10:21 pm

Getting some green growth like algea about 6-8 feet around the sprinkler heads but nowhere else.
Cyanobacteria (misnamed "Blue-Green Algae")

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 5th, 2018, 10:30 pm

Should I get a fungicide or just cut back on watering?

I did not water after 2pm today and will let things dry out a bit before applying more water.
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September 5th, 2018, 10:21 pm
Getting some green growth like algea about 6-8 feet around the sprinkler heads but nowhere else.
Cyanobacteria (misnamed "Blue-Green Algae")

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by andy10917 » September 6th, 2018, 8:29 am

Geez! I'm sorry - you're the trigger to a bit of a rant - this is not aimed at you any more than tons of people that blindly run to the wrong answer because the want something they have to be the answer.

The answer to everything that pops up in your yard is not a fungicide. Your first question should be "is this a pathogenic fungus?". In this case, you might honestly make a mistake because the common name ("Blue-Green Algae") is wrong - it is not an algae. It is a primitive bacteria. So, is an algae controlled by a fungicide? NO!!! OK, so let's say you know that it's actually Cyanobacteria. Are bacteria controlled by a fungicide? No!!

So, why is everyone's knee-jerk reaction "where is the fungicide?". Because it's easy to give products magical properties that they don't have, and then rant about "the stupid product didn't work".

Did you google what Cyanobacteria were when the Cyanobacteria answer was posted (or used the Search capability)? If you had, you would have found that they are amongst the lowest forms of life on Earth, and can't compete with higher forms of life worth a damn. They mostly occur where there (1) water in plentiful supply and (2) where there are nutrients readily available and (3) where there are no competitors.

Consider the possibility that you are overwatering - it's likely because they don't grow well if the soil isn't wet constantly. And don't be rushing to fertilizers until there is enough grass to push out the Cyanobacteria.

It will go away on its own, but if left to grow for any serious length of time, it can form a sheet/crust that is hydrophobic. If that happens, remove it with a rake.

Once more, always ID a problem and study the specifics before randomly applying stuff that may be completely wrong for the problem - and cause more harm than good.

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 6th, 2018, 8:41 am

It’s not heavy but in the right light I can see spots near the heads were the blue green algea is starting to form.

I’m backing way off on water but Today the humidity has already dropped way down so hopefully that helps. It’s been very humid the last week.
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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by andy10917 » September 6th, 2018, 8:50 am

Good move!! And check under the mats to make sure that the grass isn't germinating and then getting cut off right at the soil level - conditions of wet/hot/humid/fertilized make things favor the likelihood of Damping-Off Disease - and mats increase the chances somewhat.

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 6th, 2018, 9:27 am

The green wood fiber seeding mats can be raked or mowed awAy once I see germination the break apart Super easy. The stray seed mats have a thin plastic netting that is supposed to biodegrade and willl be more tricky to manage but I can rake away the straw once I see the little green men pop up. Hopefully start getting fuzzin next 3-5 days.
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Good move!! And check under the mats to make sure that the grass isn't germinating and then getting cut off right at the soil level - conditions of wet/hot/humid/fertilized make things favor the likelihood of Damping-Off Disease - and mats increase the chances somewhat.

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 9th, 2018, 10:22 am

Day 8 started to irrigate and realized I have initial germination. Off to a great start.

Lot of rain next two days hoping the seed blankets do their job
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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 9th, 2018, 11:32 am

Day 8 drone shot. Beginning of germination.
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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by ken-n-nancy » September 9th, 2018, 2:43 pm

KBGkicksazz wrote:
September 9th, 2018, 10:22 am
Day 8 started to irrigate and realized I have initial germination. Off to a great start.

Lot of rain next two days hoping the seed blankets do their job
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That's great news! With 2+ inches of rain anticipated in the 24 hours starting about midday on Monday, 10 Sept (tomorrow), the more of those seeds that get a root an inch down into the soil, the better!

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 11th, 2018, 2:20 pm

Despite very heavy rain last night the seeding blankets held everything in place. The picture does not show it well but the side yard slopes to the driveway and prior to the mats during heavy rain I would get soil and silt that would ooze onto the driveway.

Seeing more germination and it’s coming in fairly uniform. I’m even seeing germination popping up through the mats

We have 75-80F temps over the next week so things are moving along at this point.
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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 15th, 2018, 7:57 pm

Day 14. Coming in mostly uniform there’s one area about 8x8 that is a tiny bit thinner and watching irrigation that area doesn’t get as moist so need to adjust that head.

Grass is about 1/2 to 1 inch tall now and probably the start of sprout and pout.

I water once a day for 25 minutes for each zone around noon and combined with the dew overnight seems be right on the money for moisture level.
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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 16th, 2018, 5:02 pm

Paving contractor comes tomorrow praying they don’t destroy my fragile lawn.


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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by KBGkicksazz » September 22nd, 2018, 8:53 pm

Day 21 getting very good growth so I gave it a feeding.
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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by JHazzardB » September 23rd, 2018, 12:38 pm

Lookin nice and even for day 21!

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Re: KBGKA side yard new lawn

Post by ReD-BaRoN » September 23rd, 2018, 4:06 pm

KBGkicksazz wrote:
September 22nd, 2018, 8:53 pm
Day 21 getting very good growth so I gave it a feeding.
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What did you feed with? Did you use starter at drop time?

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