Renovators: Sprout and Pout
- sc4dr
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
He always does!
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- andy10917
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Time to wake up this thread. New renovators, this should be read and understood...
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
I am awake and have read the whole thread. Now if only I had a way to make Tenacity out of common household materials...andy10917 wrote:Time to wake up this thread. New renovators, this should be read and understood...
- SW315
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
There's some good info in there
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
So I had a question about Sprout and Pout - Can one expect more greening overall with better/more uniform coverage as other seeds germinate and catch up with the early starters so they can start their own sprout and pout? Or is sprout and pout further down the line when all the seed you're going to get to germinate have already germinated?
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
I'm REALLY hoping with my earlier-than-normal seed drop date of 8/10, I'll get to see the end of sprout n pout this year. I'm very glad I went early.
- kevreh
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Great description. You are missed morph.MorpheusPA wrote:'Tis the season. The seed is down, the stuff is sprouting and growing, and then it stops and stares you down for a while.
That's sprout and pout. It can last weeks. Annoying, intolerable weeks. You may not even leave sprout and pout before the end of the season, depending, although early renovators will probably notice it ending in early October.
Fear not. The grass that seems to be doing nothing is actually setting up root systems. It has enough greenery to do that, and it's happier working on the things that will let it survive the winter and regrow strongly next spring. Right now, top growth is secondary and unimportant to the grass--even if it's really important to you.
Don't use high nitrogen feeding to force the grass to grow--it won't work anyway. It's going to leave sprout and pout when it's durned well ready and not before. But feed as you should, that will help the roots develop.
This is yet another case where nature's goals are at odds to ours, but nature's actually make sense. Ours do not.
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
I can relate to many renovators That just feel the need to do SOMETHING. BLKH, milo... Anything is better than watching it not grow. I still have two lawns that need fall apps of SOP and/or Epsom. I'm scared to do anything . But it's hard to resist.
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- andy10917
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Yup. Par for the course. You're itching to do anything to move things along. I've got ten bucks that says in about two weeks the forum will be be full of threads about "can I cut the lawn now? How about now? Now?".
Relax. If it's in Sprout-and-Pout now, then everything is on-track.
Relax. If it's in Sprout-and-Pout now, then everything is on-track.
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
I think that's one of the things I don't like about seeding with a northern mix. While my kbg is in sprout and pout, the PRG and to some extent the fescue is starting to fold over. I don't think I have a choice but to give it a hair cut.
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Thought i would bump this to the top for all of my fellow renovators this year
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- HoosierLawnGnome
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
I'm still sprouting. No pouting yet.
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- GeorgiaDad
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
MorpheusPA wrote:'Tis the season. The seed is down, the stuff is sprouting and growing, and then it stops and stares you down for a while.
That's sprout and pout. It can last weeks. Annoying, intolerable weeks. You may not even leave sprout and pout before the end of the season, depending, although early renovators will probably notice it ending in early October.
Fear not. The grass that seems to be doing nothing is actually setting up root systems. It has enough greenery to do that, and it's happier working on the things that will let it survive the winter and regrow strongly next spring. Right now, top growth is secondary and unimportant to the grass--even if it's really important to you.
Don't use high nitrogen feeding to force the grass to grow--it won't work anyway. It's going to leave sprout and pout when it's durned well ready and not before. But feed as you should, that will help the roots develop.
This is yet another case where nature's goals are at odds to ours, but nature's actually make sense. Ours do not.
Bump. Patience grasshopper. Go back inside and have a drink.andy10917 wrote:Yup. Par for the course. You're itching to do anything to move things along. I've got ten bucks that says in about two weeks the forum will be be full of threads about "can I cut the lawn now? How about now? Now?".
Relax. If it's in Sprout-and-Pout now, then everything is on-track.
- andy10917
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Everyone knows that once Renovation Season is over, the words "Sprout-and-Pout" cannot be used again until 10 days after seed-down next year -- right?
- nclawnguy
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Well, I see what you kbg guys mean about sprout and pout. I am so used to tttf, once it germinates, it's off to the races. F'ing kbg germinates and just sits there.
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- andy10917
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Patience!! You'll be crying the "I have to cut it again" blues all too soon.
- HoosierLawnGnome
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Last year my blueberry jumped from the ground and demanded cut in 3 weeks, blasted right through S&P.nclawnguy wrote:Well, I see what you kbg guys mean about sprout and pout. I am so used to tttf, once it germinates, it's off to the races. F'ing kbg germinates and just sits there.
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This year, I'm experiencing sprout n pout in all its full glory with Bewitched.
I WANT TO CUT IT EVERY OTHER DAY. I DO.
- turf_toes
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
No sprout and pout in my back yard...
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- HoosierLawnGnome
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
Yeah, yours is WAY ahead of mine!turf_toes wrote:No sprout and pout in my back yard...
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Mine has perked up a bit - I knew it would be a long haul with the beating mine's taken, but I'm getting antsy. I'm at 4 weeks tomorrow - I hope to get the reel mower out this weekend.
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Re: Renovators: Sprout and Pout
yep. I think today is day 30 for me. I cut it Sunday and it needs another cut today. The weekly feedings have really helped, I think.HoosierLawnGnome wrote:Yeah, yours is WAY ahead of mine!turf_toes wrote:No sprout and pout in my back yard...
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Mine has perked up a bit - I knew it would be a long haul with the beating mine's taken, but I'm getting antsy. I'm at 4 weeks tomorrow - I hope to get the reel mower out this weekend.
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