Urea Drop - arghhhh!

[ken-n-nancy]

On Long Island you have missed your legal window. The next thing you will be applying is ice melt.

I must confess it took me a while to figure out what you were saying here. Now I get it. Glad to hear that urea is effective as an ice melt preventative for the Thanksgiving day football game on the lawn.

[BoatDr]

I'm not much of a sports fan, but I won't miss the turkey bowl !


- Sent From My Sandlot.

[HoosierLawnGnome]

Urea did a number on my sidewalks last year - I won't use it again on my concrete.

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On Long Island you have missed your legal window. The next thing you will be applying is ice melt.

I must confess it took me a while to figure out what you were saying here. Now I get it. Glad to hear that urea is effective as an ice melt preventative for the Thanksgiving day football game on the lawn.

I don't get it. Are you only allowed to apply Nitrogen during specified time frames in New York? Kinda like the watering bans we see in the summer, except in reverse?

[andy10917]

Long Island is strange. It has a sandy soil and a shallow, fragile water table. It lacks reservoirs, so they're screwed if the water table gets messed up. Lots of herbicides are banned on LI (the infamous "LI Restriction"). Fertilizers are banned from early November until around April 1.

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Long Island is strange. It has a sandy soil and a shallow, fragile water table. It lacks reservoirs, so they're screwed if the water table gets messed up. Lots of herbicides are banned on LI (the infamous "LI Restriction"). Fertilizers are banned from early November until around April 1.

Wow, and I doubt the top growth stops before November 1 down there. So LI residents can't apply urea as a winterizer?

[HoosierLawnGnome]

Yeah, you can't winterize your lawn.

Now I know why my neighbor sells so much de-icer. Don't want people slipping on icy ground as they walk up to your house.

[Green]

Yeah, you can't winterize your lawn.

Now I know why my neighbor sells so much de-icer. Don't want people slipping on icy ground as they walk up to your house.

I almost used fertilizer as a de-icer last winter in the back yard near the door, because I didn't want salts going into the new grass. But I ended up using nothing. I figured though, the fertilizer would just wash into the lawn and it would be good for it if anything, while the salts would be bad.

[BoatDrinksQ5]

Well just like to much piss is bad in one spot... if you have a lot of urea runoff (one of the main chem's in piss) in one spot it might create a similar effect as to much salt. Similar to when you accidently dump fert on the lawn in one spott :-0

I added a little bit of urea to my IceMelt mix to reduce total % of each of the other two or three ingredients. Figure there is less chance of "too much" of anything that way.

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I always buy the bags of ice melt (calcium chloride) instead of rock salt because I heard it's safe for pets and kids. Does anyone know if it's safe if I get some on my lawn?

[BoatDrinksQ5]

Not sure - the mix i bought had some calcium chloride, magnesium something, and salt. Now with Urea also

Figured lower percentages of each item was better then overdose of one product. Might start adding a little bit of gypsum to the mix as well lol

[BoatDr]

Don't get traditional ice melts on the lawn. Just don't.


- Sent From My Sandlot.

[BoatDrinksQ5]

^ yep!

With 5+months of hard winter(in MN)... that can be tough.

Can only fling so much snow/slush/snirt into the neighbors yard

Once stuff starts melting its tough to control where the water/chem mix goes....

[andy10917]

Calcium Chloride on the lawn is less-harmful than road-salt (Sodium Chloride). That doesn't mean that it is good for the lawn, or that care shouldn't be taken to avoid hitting the lawn/plants. All of the Chloride salts (yes, Calcium Chloride is a salt) are very harsh, and the actual lb/K rate is very high in areas near driveways, sidewalks, etc. Given that frozen soil gives it nowhere to go to, it's "other than optimal".

[Tsmith]

I still had noticable top growth when I cut on Sunday so I decided not to winterize even though we had what seemed like perfect rain for it later that night and into yesterday morning. Temps were in the 70's yesterday, mid 50's today, snow is in the forecast for tomorrow and next week is supposed to start in the 50's and reach low 60's by the end of the week.

Mother nature just isnt cooperating

[Green]

Calcium Chloride on the lawn is less-harmful than road-salt (Sodium Chloride). That doesn't mean that it is good for the lawn, or that care shouldn't be taken to avoid hitting the lawn/plants. All of the Chloride salts (yes, Calcium Chloride is a salt) are very harsh, and the actual lb/K rate is very high in areas near driveways, sidewalks, etc. Given that frozen soil gives it nowhere to go to, it's "other than optimal".

...Which, for new people reading this...is why MOP isn't recommended as a source of Potassium, and SOP is preferred.

[GaryCinChicago]

Can only fling so much snow/slush/snirt into the neighbors yard

Snirt?

Only a snomobilier uses that term!

[rlb]

I still had noticable top growth when I cut on Sunday so I decided not to winterize even though we had what seemed like perfect rain for it later that night and into yesterday morning. Temps were in the 70's yesterday, mid 50's today, snow is in the forecast for tomorrow and next week is supposed to start in the 50's and reach low 60's by the end of the week.

Mother nature just isnt cooperating

Feeling the same way. Still too wet to run the mower today, so I'm about to head out to the yard to eyeball the top growth. Not sure what to do at this point, I might just throw it down otherwise I feel like I'll be waiting until January.

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[ericgautier]

Was bored so I made a quick video "When to winterize a cool season lawn?" -- http://youtu.be/C6h2d6KjcPU

LMK if any directions should be change or if I need to add anything.

[rlb]

Was bored so I made a quick video "When to winterize a cool season lawn?" -- http://youtu.be/C6h2d6KjcPU

LMK if any directions should be change or if I need to add anything.

Good method that I absolutely didn't follow today!