Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
- turf_toes
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Generally speaking, a call to the manufacturer of the product would be the best way to find updates on it.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
I emailed them last month, sent me a reply they hope to have it available for home use soon. I have been around long enough, not to count on it any time soon. It doesn't hurt to keep asking, so they know there is a market for it.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Wow. Very encouraging. Maybe five to ten years from now we will have PoaCure. Depends whether the people marketing it in the US want to aim for it (and pay the fees), though. And then if states want to approve it or not. Keep our fingers crossed...this might follow an approval and registration progression like Tenacity did in the early 2000s if they are right.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
I noticed poa cure went from $250 to $280 for a 16 oz bottle.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Who cares how much it cost. I'd gladly pay $300 for a bottle.
I have been spraying tenacity every 4 days, I have 2 apps left, and doubt the poa-a in my lawn will really be controlled by the Tenacity, its never been before. I am so close to giving up on the lawn.
I just can't beat the poa-a, there is too much to rip out by hand, and killing it with glysophate will kill off so much of my lawn Ill be stuck over-seeding in August, which will cause more poa-a to germinate.
$300 is a small price to pay.
I have been spraying tenacity every 4 days, I have 2 apps left, and doubt the poa-a in my lawn will really be controlled by the Tenacity, its never been before. I am so close to giving up on the lawn.
I just can't beat the poa-a, there is too much to rip out by hand, and killing it with glysophate will kill off so much of my lawn Ill be stuck over-seeding in August, which will cause more poa-a to germinate.
$300 is a small price to pay.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Killing it with roundup differs how from killing it with another product?
You’ll have bare spots requiring you to overseed in either case.
I’d suggest you expect more good grass to survive in those spots than will actually be the case.
Ymmv
I’ve used Corsair to kill Fescue and Rye in my KBG lawns in the past. Unless you are just committed to heavy feeding so any KBG will eventually fill it in, you’re likely going to need to overseed in either case
If you have a KBG lawn, my advice would be to kill the poa annua now. Gently fertilize when you can throughout the season (depending on temperatures). Then apply dimension in August and do an aggressive fall fertilization plan. I’d avoid seeding it and let the KBG do its thing.
But that’s just what I’d do. Again, ymmv.
But first make sure you actually have Poa Annua. KBG puts out similar seedheads this time of year.
Most people seem to have difficulty distinguishing between the two.
You’ll have bare spots requiring you to overseed in either case.
I’d suggest you expect more good grass to survive in those spots than will actually be the case.
Ymmv
I’ve used Corsair to kill Fescue and Rye in my KBG lawns in the past. Unless you are just committed to heavy feeding so any KBG will eventually fill it in, you’re likely going to need to overseed in either case
If you have a KBG lawn, my advice would be to kill the poa annua now. Gently fertilize when you can throughout the season (depending on temperatures). Then apply dimension in August and do an aggressive fall fertilization plan. I’d avoid seeding it and let the KBG do its thing.
But that’s just what I’d do. Again, ymmv.
But first make sure you actually have Poa Annua. KBG puts out similar seedheads this time of year.
Most people seem to have difficulty distinguishing between the two.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
I have been through all this before. I have so many weeks when the poa-a is seeding, then the KBG starts to also.
Right now it’s easy to tell what’s poa-a and what’s KBG, in a week or two I won’t be able to.
My only concern with glysophate is that KBG, spreads. If I spray a small area with poa-a, will KBG that’s a foot away also die?
Whatever I do, I have a week to do it, before seed head season starts up.
Right now it’s easy to tell what’s poa-a and what’s KBG, in a week or two I won’t be able to.
My only concern with glysophate is that KBG, spreads. If I spray a small area with poa-a, will KBG that’s a foot away also die?
Whatever I do, I have a week to do it, before seed head season starts up.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Let’s keep this thread focused on poaCure. We’ve got many other threads to discuss the pros and cons of renovating or applying roundup to Poa Annua.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
“How long until residential gets approved?”
PoaCure “Trying targeting in late 2024”
Wow this would be a paradigm shift in lawn care!
PoaCure “Trying targeting in late 2024”
Wow this would be a paradigm shift in lawn care!
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Where did that info come from about residential being targeted for approval over the next few years? Thanks.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
wis99ski,
Ok. Did you contact him personally to ask, or was this published somewhere and you came across it? Trying to figure out if it's actually something they are thinking about, without being asked first.
Ok. Did you contact him personally to ask, or was this published somewhere and you came across it? Trying to figure out if it's actually something they are thinking about, without being asked first.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
“Any update on residential?”
“Label expansion to be applied this year.”
“Label expansion to be applied this year.”
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Due to “EPA review period expecting (residential approval) in 2025”
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Question; if you could get your hands on poacure, would you use it in your lawn now, or would you want to wait for it to be fully tested (for safety?) / approved in residential lawns?
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
I think you’d be nuts to apply it now
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
Why wouldn't you, many gold courses are using it now.
If you know what your doing and follow instructions carefully, it is probably perfectly safe on residential lawns.
Those of us battling poa-a and triv really need something to take these nuisances on and would be willing to be extra careful with a commercial product if it meant taking care of some long standing issues.
If you know what your doing and follow instructions carefully, it is probably perfectly safe on residential lawns.
Those of us battling poa-a and triv really need something to take these nuisances on and would be willing to be extra careful with a commercial product if it meant taking care of some long standing issues.
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
turf_toes: nuts to apply it now meaning because it's not yet available/approved for home usage, or for some other reason?
northeast: I guess my concerning would be is that it turns out the product remains harmful to people/pets for long periods of time (which is perhaps ok on a golf course where it's generally adults with shoes on, vs. a home lawn with pets/kids, barefeet...).
northeast: I guess my concerning would be is that it turns out the product remains harmful to people/pets for long periods of time (which is perhaps ok on a golf course where it's generally adults with shoes on, vs. a home lawn with pets/kids, barefeet...).
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Re: Status of POACure? (Updated 02/2020 below)
I tend to wait for the process to complete.
I’ll let others run the risk. I know it’s heresy. But it’s just a lawn. I can wait.
I’ll let others run the risk. I know it’s heresy. But it’s just a lawn. I can wait.
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