What can I mix Quinolac (QuinKill Max) for general broadleaf removal.

[nutshellml]

I purchased Quinkill Max and an MSO for my post emergent crabgrass killer. I want to mix it with a more general broadleaf weed killer. Any specific recommendations? I was looking at Hi-Yield 2, 4-D Selective Weed Killer but unsure on mixing everything. Thoughts?

[andy10917]

Before you start searching, use the proper spelling: Quinclorac.

Generally Quinclorac is for crabgrass, and adds some punch to 3-Way to attack Clover, Violets and Ground Ivy -- generally "Level 2" weeds.

It's rare to see Quinclorac as the main herbicide in a cocktail mix. It's generally the additive - turning a 3-Way into a "4-Way".

[nutshellml]

so basically it can be added to any level 2 weed killer. Something w 24d?

[andy10917]

No!! I think you're either skimming instead of reading, or writing what you WISH I said...

Some Level 1 three-ways can be extended to kill some Level 2 weeds with the addition of Quinclorac. There was no "ANY" in my statement, and the responsibility for determining (on a small area) what is safe and what is not falls squarely on the person doing the mix.

[nutshellml]

Ok, understood, but still confused. If I read the Triangle approach correctly and also other posts, the Quinclorac is an additive. That said as per the article - I still have "20 different types of weeds." Clovers definitely so it states a broadleaft killer containing 2, 4D. So with my northern lawn, I need a 2, 4D, but CANT use the Quinkill with it? Or I need to experiment, but that isn't posible as I don't plan to buy and try. Looking for recommendation.

[andy10917]

This is not hard. For Level 1 weeds, you apply an herbicide with 2,4-D or a "three-way product". You can experiment in an area with the 2,4-D or "three-way" plus Quinclorac. Typically it is NOT each product at full-strength. How much you can add is why you experiment and find the safe level, or buy a product that already did the testing at a safe level.

Alternatively, you could just do the Triangle Approach with the products (like Triclopyr) specified for Level 2 weeds like Clover.

[g-man]

nutshellml, if you buy "weed b Gon plus crabgrass control" it will have a mix that includes "quinolac" :-). You could buy it at any big box store as a concentrate. Just follow the label instructions and no need to experiment.

[nutshellml]

Thanks, I believe I also have nutsedge. From reading weed be gone it doesn't control that but orthopedic makes a Second product, but now I'll be doing twice work.

[g-man]

This one then. It is a 4 way, but with lower % of active, so it might take more apps to really control.

http://www.spectracide.com/solutions/we ... trate.aspx

[nutshellml]

This one then. It is a 4 way, but with lower % of active, so it might take more apps to really control.

http://www.spectracide.com/solutions/we ... trate.aspx

What do you think of this stuff: Q4 Plus Turf Herbicide. Appears to be more economical. I have a 1 gallon sprayer. http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/q ... -herbicide

[PeterS]

What do you think of this stuff: Q4 Plus Turf Herbicide. Appears to be more economical. I have a 1 gallon sprayer. http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/q ... -herbicide

I've used Q4 before with very good results. Most of the time no second application has been needed for broadleafs and only occasionally with crabgrass.

[g-man]

What do you think of this stuff: Q4 Plus Turf Herbicide. Appears to be more economical. I have a 1 gallon sprayer. http://store.doyourownpestcontrol.com/q ... -herbicide

Same 4 active ingredients, so it should do what you want. I'm not sure if it will be cheaper than the locally bought concentrate. Do you have a large property?

[nutshellml]

Not compared to other properties near me, medium sized. I usually get away with 5000sq fertilizer bags.

Another quick question. Since the weeds are scattered instead of using my gallon sprayer i was going to use the dial hose attachment. Any thoughts? Or advice on that?

[g-man]

I would not use a dial hose attachment to anything that could kill my lawn if the ratio is wrong. Basically, you want a calibrated system. That means that you will be able to be sure that Xoz of the product with Y gallons of water are applied to Z sqft area. A dial hose could pull too much from the bottle based on the flow of your hose, the rate of it coming out of the nozzle is fast, so if you walk too fast or too slow, it wont be correct. Lastly, the herbicides are absorb by the leafs (foliar) so you want small drops of water to evaporate from the leaves (leaving the ai attached). A dial will produce large drops of water that will run to the soil instead of the leaves.

In summary, I would use the gallon sprayer and follow the label of the product you get.

Use this website to get a better estimate of your sqft of your yard. It is important to know to avoid over application. www.findlotsize.com

[TimmyG]

Another quick question. Since the weeds are scattered instead of using my gallon sprayer i was going to use the dial hose attachment. Any thoughts? Or advice on that?

Yeah, spot spray (with your gallon sprayer). Don't stress your turf (and environment) unnecessarily with herbicide if you don't have to. If the weeds are scattered, target the weeds.