My Bewitched is so light green

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My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 12th, 2017, 1:55 pm

I'm growing some KBG in pots and my Bewitched is so light green compared to the others. My phone makes the grass look darker (all of them) so it's even lighter in person than what you see here in pics. They're all watered and fertilized the same. Pots are approx. 2 - 2.5 months old. The other three cultivars were from Pawnee Butte Seeds and were used in my 2015 reno and came out excellent. The Bewitched was purchased this year from a Canadian supplier - Brett Young - and the seed specialist I talked to when I placed the order told me they get their seed from the US.

I know there are reports here of BW being lighter than Blueberry when young but the contrast I'm seeing here is drastic especially compared to JG's pot test of BB and BW from a few years back. I realize it's different soil and management etc etc etc are all factors but I'm just wondering why my BW is so light green at this point. Its been much lighter from the get go and it's gone even lighter as the grass matured over the last few weeks. I waited a while to post this to give it time. I know that it can get darker over time but I'm curious if anyone has any insight. I hope that it is really Bewitched and not Bedazzled. At this point there is no way to really find out for sure as the bag the seed came in said "Bewitched" and the only way it wouldn't be is if the workers scooping the seed into the smaller bag took it from the wrong bigger bag of a different cultivar.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 12th, 2017, 2:06 pm

Forgot to include the pics in the first post.

This first pic is closer to what I see in person.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by Fronta1 » July 12th, 2017, 2:43 pm

Don't blame you for wondering after seeing those pics. Only way to know is order some more (maybe just a sample) from somewhere else and compare. If I had to guess though, it looks way worse and it's not just the color it's the density and growth habit I'd say that is not bewitched.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by turf_toes » July 12th, 2017, 2:53 pm

I would not panic yet. I planted bewitched several years ago. But the color wasn't great (in my opinion) until about two years in. It was much lighter in color than blueberry in its first two years.

Now the results are the inverse. Bewitched is much darker than blueberry when fertilized at the same rate. Even better, it displays much slower vertical growth than blueberry.

I need to cut blueberry 2-to-3 times a week. I could easily go a week without cutting bewitched.

But if you are nervous and need to make a choice now and forever, pick something else. This shouldn't be a stressful hobby.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by SNOWBOB11 » July 12th, 2017, 3:24 pm

The contrast in color on the bewitched is quite noticeable in the pics you posted. This makes me kind of nervous as I ordered a #50 bag of bewitched from the same place you did - brett young, for my reno. I hope there bewitched isn't different to the bewitched i've seen on the forum. They get there seed from TMI industries in oregon and according to the guy I talked to it is certified bewitched KBG. I guess you were able to get a small amount of test seed from them and not a sealed #50 bag, so maybe they did put the wrong seed in the bag you got? I would just freak is I ended up doing a bedazzled monostand.


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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 12th, 2017, 3:57 pm

I was hoping you'd see this post SnowBob. I'd recommend growing some pots. I don't know if you have enough time. I ordered 5lbs and they repackaged it. I hope they didn't make a mistake. I'm not renovating until next year so I'm not panicking, yet. I have three other pots of Bewitched growing but are only a couple weeks old. I'll see how they turn out.

Regarding the growth habit and density, I had poor germination in that pot. That could be the reason. I might do a diagnostic test with Tenacity but KBG bleaches with Tenacity too so I'm not sure how I should go about it.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by SNOWBOB11 » July 12th, 2017, 6:21 pm

Thanks for thinking about me man. I think it is definitely too late for me to grow test pots of the bewitched. Don't get me wrong i'm going to be starting some pots when my seed comes next week but my first scheduled app of glyphosate goes down next week also so whether the brett young bewitched is light green or not I won't know for a while and the lawn will be fully nuked by then. Like I said the guy told me it was certified bewitched I was getting and i'm buying the sealed #50 bag so hopefully i'll be ok. If anything my reno will help you decide if the brett young bewitched is to your liking or not for when your ready.

Got to say though after seeing the pics you posted i'm definitely more worried than I was before seeing the pics. The other 3 test plots you planted look like they are doing great. There thick and a nice shade of green. The bewitched pot looks more like poa triv. We'll see how it goes.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 12th, 2017, 8:35 pm

Sorry to worry you but I thought I'd throw it out there. The guy you talked to did assure you it was certified BW and you're buying a 50lb bag so you should be good. In my case, it's either just a little chlorotic for some reason or they made a mistake when they repackaged it in the smaller bag. I'll post pics in a month or so of what this pot looks like then and of the 3 younger pots of BW. Please post pics of your pots as well SNOWBOB if you can. I'm subscribed to your reno thread already.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by SNOWBOB11 » July 12th, 2017, 9:29 pm

Don't be sorry at all. I'm glad you posted the pics. I'd rather see your results with your pots so I can watch out and see if my bewitched looks the same as your pots when it reaches the same amount of time from germination. Will be very interesting to see the pics of your pots in a month to see if the bewitched has darkened up any.

I'll be posting pics for sure as my reno progresses. Not much will be going on for another week or so as I just got my order of glyphosate and tenacity today. Things are going fast though, i'm now only about a month away from my planned seed down date.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 12th, 2017, 11:35 pm

turf_toes wrote:
July 12th, 2017, 2:53 pm
I would not panic yet. I planted bewitched several years ago. But the color wasn't great (in my opinion) until about two years in. It was much lighter in color than blueberry in its first two years.

Now the results are the inverse. Bewitched is much darker than blueberry when fertilized at the same rate.


Yes I've read your comments about this in other recent threads. However, I'm wondering if your BW was ever this light... just doesn't seem right.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by seiyafan » July 15th, 2017, 3:27 pm

Last year when I did BW mono the grass from the pots were a few shades lighter than those already growing in the lawn when I transported them.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 15th, 2017, 5:40 pm

seiyafan wrote:
July 15th, 2017, 3:27 pm
Last year when I did BW mono the grass from the pots were a few shades lighter than those already growing in the lawn when I transported them.
Good to know. We're the pots around the same age as the lawn?

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 15th, 2017, 5:49 pm

As an aside, Midnight and Prosperity are showing significant drought stress right now with a few days of no water and temps around 80. Blueberry and Bewitched are doing fine. However the Midnight and Prosperity pots are denser and have more plants competing for water. Midnight is the most diseased showing quite a bit of PM and rust (I think). Prosperity has some disease but the other two are fairly disease free. I've been doing weekly apps of Serenade approx. 0.25 teaspoon for 7 pots for about 3 weeks now since I first saw PM 3 weeks ago.
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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by seiyafan » July 15th, 2017, 8:58 pm

llO0DQLE wrote:
July 15th, 2017, 5:40 pm
seiyafan wrote:
July 15th, 2017, 3:27 pm
Last year when I did BW mono the grass from the pots were a few shades lighter than those already growing in the lawn when I transported them.
Good to know. We're the pots around the same age as the lawn?
Pretty much the same time when they were seeded

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 15th, 2017, 11:28 pm

Thanks!

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by jglongisland » July 16th, 2017, 2:40 pm

That is unusual, but I would feed it with some Miracle Gro and see what happens.

I'm so much happier with Bewitched that Blueberry; the slower growth rate is wonderful. It does take a while to get going (I have some patches in my lawn that are still not growing a regular place and it was seeded last year - albeit late).

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by llO0DQLE » July 16th, 2017, 4:56 pm

jglongisland wrote:
July 16th, 2017, 2:40 pm
That is unusual, but I would feed it with some Miracle Gro and see what happens.

I'm so much happier with Bewitched that Blueberry; the slower growth rate is wonderful. It does take a while to get going (I have some patches in my lawn that are still not growing a regular place and it was seeded last year - albeit late).
I have some urea, MAP and MOP on-hand. Would that be the same or is Miracle Gro better? Does MG have micronutrients? I think I remember you saying you bottom feed with miracle Gro? Just dissolve in water and pour in the tray?

Yeah I've read your new house thread and I've seen it in the pots. Such a slow starter. I hope it will take off soon.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by jglongisland » July 16th, 2017, 4:58 pm

Don't over think it, just feed it with Miracle Gro from the top and see how it looks a week later. Give it a good soak (preferably separate from the others).

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by jglongisland » July 16th, 2017, 4:59 pm

I wouldn't stress about micro nutrients.

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Re: My Bewitched is so light green

Post by andy10917 » July 16th, 2017, 5:06 pm

I wouldn't stress about micro nutrients
Agree! When the patient is having a heart attack, it's not time to be discussing whether they are up-to-date on their Vitamin C intake. That's an overall good health topic, but not for acute issues (unless extreme).

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