Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

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Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by northeastlawn » August 14th, 2018, 2:01 pm

I realize I would be going off label, but what are the consequences of exceeding the 16oz Tenacity limit in a year?

I went through my yearly limit in the spring, but a ton of POA survived the summer. It really stands out because the KBG is growing really slowly right now while the POA is doing fine.

I was thinking of doing a blanket spray of 4oz followed by another 4oz spot spray 14 days after. I got my pre-m down last weekend, but the POA is laughing me and I think I need to be scared straight not to apply another 8oz. I addicted to the stuff, just want the POA gone

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by Coop_V » August 14th, 2018, 10:58 pm

POA survived the summer? Where are you located? Every spec of POA annua was dead here in Northeast NC before June 1st

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by schreibdave » August 15th, 2018, 7:56 am

In Syracuse NY my poa T never died in summer. I too am curious to know what happens when u exceed the annual limit.

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by northeastlawn » August 15th, 2018, 8:20 am

I have a first year KBG lawn, I couldn't let it go dormant this summer. I watered every 3-4 days, to head off diseases issues. I am pretty familiar with POA at this point and it did indeed make it through the summer. In fact my KBG kind of slowed down, the POA is still going to seed, its very noticeable right now.

I don't think POA automatically dies every summer. I have seen on here about advanced techniques regarding tenancy, but its off label so I guess its not something thats talked about a lot.

It pulls out very easy, I am leaning towards a diagnosis app of 4oz, if for no other reason I can confirm whats POA and whats KBG. Maybe I could hand pull it at that point. Just unsure.

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by llO0DQLE » August 15th, 2018, 10:22 pm

If you do try it, please post your results, good/bad/neutral. I am contemplating exceeding the limit a little bit.via spot spraying at a low dose.


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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by KBGkicksazz » August 16th, 2018, 1:24 pm

Are you killing poa A or poa T

If killing poa T use Certainty

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by northeastlawn » August 16th, 2018, 1:31 pm

In my case I am in a battle with POA, not sure what schreibdave is battling.

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by TimmyG » August 16th, 2018, 1:36 pm

I'm more curious as to the meaning of formatting POA in all caps.

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by andy10917 » August 16th, 2018, 1:42 pm

northeastlawn wrote:
August 16th, 2018, 1:31 pm
In my case I am in a battle with POA, not sure what schreibdave is battling.
"Poa" is not a single grass type. There is "Poa Annua", "Poa Trivialis" and even "Poa Pratensis" (KBG). They are all different, and "Poa" treatments for "Poa Annua" and "Poa Trivialis" are completely different.

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by TimmyG » August 16th, 2018, 2:00 pm

andy10917 wrote:
May 5th, 2017, 9:05 am
Note to all:

Please don't use the terms "Poa" and "Triv" to represent two different grasses - it's incorrect and confuses. Both Poa Annua and Poa Trivialis are "Poa". "Triv" is an OK abbreviation for Poa Trivialis, but "Poa" is not for "Poa Annua".
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It's just a really good suggestion to avoid confusion, even if the "turf pros" say "poa" to refer to Poa annua.

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by ken-n-nancy » August 25th, 2018, 8:43 am

TimmyG wrote:
August 16th, 2018, 2:00 pm
andy10917 wrote:
May 5th, 2017, 9:05 am
Note to all:

Please don't use the terms "Poa" and "Triv" to represent two different grasses - it's incorrect and confuses. Both Poa Annua and Poa Trivialis are "Poa". "Triv" is an OK abbreviation for Poa Trivialis, but "Poa" is not for "Poa Annua".
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It's just a really good suggestion to avoid confusion, even if the "turf pros" say "poa" to refer to Poa annua.
+1 on this. One of my pet peeves.

Do people intentionally talk / write so as to be misunderstood?!?

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Re: Consequences of exceeding 16oz Tenacity Limit?

Post by northeastlawn » August 25th, 2018, 8:47 am

I am guilty of that; when I use Poa, I am referring to Poa Annua. I use Triv when I mean Poa Trivialis. Ill be more specific in the future.

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