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Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 11th, 2019, 3:30 pm
by Wally
Is Bullseye TF not being produced any longer? It was tops in the trials at Rutgers.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 11th, 2019, 3:43 pm
by Pway
They have it at Burlingame and superseedstore online. Probably elsewhere too.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 11th, 2019, 8:34 pm
by Green
Pway wrote:
August 11th, 2019, 3:43 pm
They have it at Burlingame and superseedstore online. Probably elsewhere too.
I did a search on the seed superstore site for it and nothing came up. Not even a listing for it. Are you saying you saw it in stock there recently?

Also, what is "Burlingame"?

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 12th, 2019, 7:48 am
by Pway
Green wrote:
August 11th, 2019, 8:34 pm
Pway wrote:
August 11th, 2019, 3:43 pm
They have it at Burlingame and superseedstore online. Probably elsewhere too.
I did a search on the seed superstore site for it and nothing came up. Not even a listing for it. Are you saying you saw it in stock there recently?

Also, what is "Burlingame"?
Burlingham Seed is out of Oregon and they list it. I have a neighbor who has bought it from SSS in the past but maybe they are out.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 12th, 2019, 3:24 pm
by McLovin
The guys at Hogan says they cant get bullseye anymore.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 12th, 2019, 5:07 pm
by Pway
https://burlinghamseeds.com/products/tall-fescues/

Here is the link to Burlingham Seed.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 13th, 2019, 12:51 am
by Green
Pway wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 5:07 pm
https://burlinghamseeds.com/products/tall-fescues/

Here is the link to Burlingham Seed.
That's the marketer/distributor.

According to the guys at Hogan, the closest current replacements for Bullseye are GTO, Hotrod, Hemi, and Firebird 2...which are also listed at Burlingham. I'm sorry to see it go, as well. My back lawn is composed of it and Firecracker, plus 3 KBG varieties. It sounded like the producing plants for Bullseye were aging, and the growers weren't getting enough seed off of them anymore.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 13th, 2019, 8:29 am
by McLovin
The "current" Prime Time mix is

33.13% Hot Rod Tall Fescue
33.05% Firebird 2 Tall Fescue
32.90% Turbo RZ Tall Fescue

It used to be 1/3 Bullseye.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 13th, 2019, 9:30 am
by Pway
Green wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 12:51 am
Pway wrote:
August 12th, 2019, 5:07 pm
https://burlinghamseeds.com/products/tall-fescues/

Here is the link to Burlingham Seed.
That's the marketer/distributor.

According to the guys at Hogan, the closest current replacements for Bullseye are GTO, Hotrod, Hemi, and Firebird 2...which are also listed at Burlingham. I'm sorry to see it go, as well. My back lawn is composed of it and Firecracker, plus 3 KBG varieties. It sounded like the producing plants for Bullseye were aging, and the growers weren't getting enough seed off of them anymore.
Okay,my bad, I saw the write up and “place your order today” so I assumed they had some in stock.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 13th, 2019, 1:30 pm
by Wally
McLovin wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 8:29 am
The "current" Prime Time mix is

33.13% Hot Rod Tall Fescue
33.05% Firebird 2 Tall Fescue
32.90% Turbo RZ Tall Fescue

It used to be 1/3 Bullseye.
I wonder how leaf width is on those 3 as compared to Bullseye?

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 13th, 2019, 5:29 pm
by Green
Pway wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 9:30 am
Okay,my bad, I saw the write up and “place your order today” so I assumed they had some in stock.
What did you say about Seed Superstore earlier? I saw nothing regarding Bullseye on their site.

I asked the guys at Hogan several times over the past year, and each time they confirmed it's not being grown anymore...but a replacement is possible in the future.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 13th, 2019, 8:14 pm
by Pway
Green wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 5:29 pm
Pway wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 9:30 am
Okay,my bad, I saw the write up and “place your order today” so I assumed they had some in stock.
What did you say about Seed Superstore earlier? I saw nothing regarding Bullseye on their site.

I asked the guys at Hogan several times over the past year, and each time they confirmed it's not being grown anymore...but a replacement is possible in the future.
As per my post, a neighbor had purchased Bullseye from SSSin the past. I don’t recall exactly when that was but they did carry it in the past. Nothing more or nothing less.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 14th, 2019, 7:19 am
by Wally
I wonder why it was being phased out? Not producing enough seed?

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 14th, 2019, 3:19 pm
by Green
Wally wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 7:19 am
I wonder why it was being phased out? Not producing enough seed?
That's how the guys at Hogan understand it and explained to me.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 14th, 2019, 5:40 pm
by Wally
Green wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 3:19 pm
Wally wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 7:19 am
I wonder why it was being phased out? Not producing enough seed?
That's how the guys at Hogan understand it and explained to me.
Too bad. I wonder what the number is that makes a cultivar viable in terms of seed production?

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 14th, 2019, 7:17 pm
by andy10917
Enough to make an independent seed grower in Oregon feel that he's making a living. If he felt he could make more growing turnips, then well you know what he's be growing...

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: August 15th, 2019, 10:49 pm
by Green
I talked with them again today. I mentioned how I had seen the name of a new version of Bullseye in the latest NTEP preliminary results recently, and asked Stephen if he knew anything about it. He said that squares with what he had heard...that it's definitely in trials now, and as long as it makes it through them with good enough ratings, he would expect it to eventually be grown for seed production. It may be a "spreading" variety, also. But who knows how many years away from actual sale it might be.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: October 9th, 2019, 4:20 pm
by Green
Wally wrote:
August 11th, 2019, 3:30 pm
It was tops in the trials at Rutgers.
Give The Hogan Company a call if you're still looking for some. You can say the guy in CT referred you.

Re: Is Bullseye Gone?

Posted: October 9th, 2019, 4:43 pm
by Factor
Hey Green
Thanks for mentioning Hogan's they are just a county north of me... Never knew they were there..