Turflon Ester vs T-Zone

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Turflon Ester vs T-Zone

Post by starpartyguy » March 10th, 2020, 10:37 am

Each winter the Bermuda grass dies off and leaves a brown 200 sq. ft. patch in the front corner of my property. I was considering using Turflon Ester (during the summer) on the Bermuda to control it. It looks like T-Zone has the same active ingredient. Could I use that to avoid buying another product?

I could use Roundup but I don't like using that stuff for obvious reasons. I could kill off the Bermuda with 2 or 3 apps. Then i could get several bags of topsoil and cover the area and reseed. The area's a little low anyway so it's not a problem to raise the ground an inch or two.

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Re: Turflon Ester vs T-Zone

Post by andy10917 » March 10th, 2020, 8:41 pm

You're sure that it's Bermuda and not Zoysia?

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Re: Turflon Ester vs T-Zone

Post by Pway » March 10th, 2020, 8:45 pm

Or bent?

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Re: Turflon Ester vs T-Zone

Post by andy10917 » March 10th, 2020, 9:06 pm

Where did you get the information that Turflon Ester and T-Zone have the same active ingredient(s)? It's not so - Turflon Ester is straight 60% Triclopyr. T-Zone is 8.45% Triclopyr, 0.43% Sulfentrazone, about 32% 2,4-D, and 2.43% Dicamba.

I wouldn't consider those similar products.

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Re: Turflon Ester vs T-Zone

Post by Green » March 10th, 2020, 10:37 pm

Yup, apples to pears comparison. Some overlap/relation, but very different products.

That said, I will point out that the most important decision right now would be that of Trickipyr Ester vs amine. I have never had good luck with the amine form in cooler weather, and the science supports this idea. If your weather is cool and you're going after weeds that require Trickopyr--level 2 weeds--you'll want the Ester.


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Re: Turflon Ester vs T-Zone

Post by starpartyguy » March 15th, 2020, 2:10 pm

First, the offending grass in my lawn (Lancaster, Pa.) is almost certainly Bermuda. I compared it to pictures. I sends out runners and dies in the winter. During the fall, some of the TTTF comes back in patches. But it tends to get overcome by the Bermuda. We have a golf course 2 miles from me as the crow flies and I am pretty sure it came from there.

It's a bluer green than the TTTF, btw.

I saw the same ingredient in the Tzone as was in the Turflon and assumed they were in high enough concentrate to be effective. Now that I know, I'll go ahead and buy the right product. I need to order Humic Acid anyway

The Tzone was very effective on the clover and wild violets. I have violets coming up now so I think I'll mix one gallon and go over the lawn. Not nearly as much around as last year. Same goes for clover (thus the bare spots).

Laid down some seed in 3 bare spots yesterday. Got a little rain last night. Going to cover temporarily with tarps while applying Prodiamine to rest of lawn. Rain coming Wednesday night. Will apply when I get home from work on Wednesday.

Will post before and after pictures in next few posts.

And thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Turflon Ester vs T-Zone

Post by Green » March 15th, 2020, 11:28 pm

As far as Bermuda suppression and killing Bermuda, I assume you know that the programs and cocktails tend to be elaborate (unless you want to spend money for Pylex). Triclopyr is only a small part of a Bermuda control regimen. But I'm sure you've already researched this all and are well versed on it. If you have more questions, it might not hurt to ask the superintendent at that golf course for advice.

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