Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Kentucky bluegrass, Fescue, Rye and Bent, etc
Post Reply
KPersico
Posts: 33
Joined: May 4th, 2020, 5:12 pm
Location: Long Island NY
Grass Type: Kentucky Bluegrass
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Not Specified

Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by KPersico » April 30th, 2021, 8:51 am

Can really use some guidance on how to proceed with my current lawn

Please see below for what I've done up until today

Early March - blanket Prodiamine
End of March - blanket Tenacity
Start of April - Tenacity second application
Second week of April - Q4 Plus Herbicide
Last week - Scotts GreenMax Fertilizer and Sulfate of Potash (based on recommendation from Soil Test)


Image

KPersico
Posts: 33
Joined: May 4th, 2020, 5:12 pm
Location: Long Island NY
Grass Type: Kentucky Bluegrass
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Not Specified

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by KPersico » April 30th, 2021, 1:05 pm

I'm getting mixed responses from various people...

Some say that I should dethatch and overseed the area. Even though I put down prodiamine and Q4.

Some say leave it alone for 6 weeks.

Some say more nitrgoen.

I am lost

HSB3-LI
Posts: 145
Joined: November 3rd, 2014, 2:40 pm
Location: Long Island NY
Grass Type: Blueberry, Midnight, Prosperity Kentucky Bluegrass
Lawn Size: 5000-10000
Level: Experienced

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by HSB3-LI » April 30th, 2021, 8:52 pm

Leave it be. Just keep up with proper mowing and watering techniques and see how it comes along. Follow your soil test plan. Patience. Keep up the fight on any weeds if they are a problem. It's still early in the season here on LI, the grass isn't quite running at full speed yet, at least not for me. Another week or two. Overseed in the fall if you have bare or patchy areas, but no point in thinking about that now, especially after applying the prodiamine.

Masbustelo
Posts: 488
Joined: September 14th, 2018, 10:56 pm
Location: Western Illinois, parallel to tip o Lake Michigan.
Grass Type: Mazama KBG
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Some Experience

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by Masbustelo » April 30th, 2021, 9:12 pm

Some say you're killing it with kindness. Back off on all the kindness, let it recover and then see where you're at. I'm unfamiliar with the Q4 product but this may be what you are experiencing.

Per the product label: Turfgrass tolerance to this product may vary and temporary turfgrass yellowing may occur on fine fescues, Bermudagrass, and zoysiagrass (see specific Bermudagrass and zoysiagrass sections). Apply only to fine fescue when it is part of a mixed stand of cool-season turf/cool-season blends. Tolerant turf species listed on this label may exhibit temporary turf injury. The best tolerance occurs under optimal conditions for the turfgrass.

Jackson
Posts: 61
Joined: July 11th, 2017, 9:31 pm
Location: Hinsdale IL
Grass Type: Cool Northern
Lawn Size: Not Specified
Level: Not Specified

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by Jackson » May 5th, 2021, 1:31 pm

If that were my yard:
1. Dethatch or rake all of that dead stuff.
2. Sharpen my lawnmower blade
3. Max out my height of cut
4. Mow once a week

Thats it until youre due for your next fert.


edslawn
Posts: 475
Joined: July 2nd, 2019, 9:22 pm
Location: South Central PA
Grass Type: Northern Mix
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Some Experience

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by edslawn » May 5th, 2021, 6:26 pm

KPersico wrote:
April 30th, 2021, 8:51 am
Can really use some guidance on how to proceed with my current lawn

Please see below for what I've done up until today

Early March - blanket Prodiamine
End of March - blanket Tenacity
Start of April - Tenacity second application
Second week of April - Q4 Plus Herbicide
Last week - Scotts GreenMax Fertilizer and Sulfate of Potash (based on recommendation from Soil Test)


Image
Are you sure this isn't just tenacity lighting up everything it kills or weakens? Also, did you blanket the Q4 or spot treat? I'm in agreement with @Masbustelo,it sure seems like you may want to relax a little on the chemical treatments and let the lawn recover.

northeastlawn
Posts: 1259
Joined: June 1st, 2015, 3:10 pm
Location: S.E. Mass.
Grass Type: KBG
Lawn Size: 1000-3000
Level: Experienced

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by northeastlawn » May 5th, 2021, 7:03 pm

I am having lawn flash backs, that could be my old lawn. I had a lot of grass that grew OK, but also a lot weeds and grassy weeds.

I really jumped the gun when I first started, and made a bunch of mistakes.

Try and be patient and go through the triangle approach to take care of the weeds and see where you are. Taking care of the weeds and watering less frequently can make for a big improvement.

learn what Poa-Annua and Poa Triv look like. You seem to have some poa-a, and if you have poa triv its a nightmare, but considering your just starting, killing off the triv now will help you if you decide to over-seed in the future. If you have any poa-a, hand pulling works OK for me,you can save the tenacity for an over-seed later in the year.

You will have plenty of future decisions to make, but this spring just take care of the weeds and build up your lawn routine a little at a time. There is no need to take everything everyone does on here, and start doing it right away. Slowly learn the basics of it all and try to understand how and why your doing something.

Masbustelo
Posts: 488
Joined: September 14th, 2018, 10:56 pm
Location: Western Illinois, parallel to tip o Lake Michigan.
Grass Type: Mazama KBG
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Some Experience

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by Masbustelo » May 5th, 2021, 9:49 pm

Somebody seems to be M.I.A.

KPersico
Posts: 33
Joined: May 4th, 2020, 5:12 pm
Location: Long Island NY
Grass Type: Kentucky Bluegrass
Lawn Size: 20000-1 acre
Level: Not Specified

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by KPersico » May 9th, 2021, 12:05 pm

Here’s an update from today after a cut.

Haven’t done anything to it since the original post.

Image

Jackson
Posts: 61
Joined: July 11th, 2017, 9:31 pm
Location: Hinsdale IL
Grass Type: Cool Northern
Lawn Size: Not Specified
Level: Not Specified

Re: Need Help with Lawn (Pic Included)

Post by Jackson » May 10th, 2021, 1:36 pm

Still looks pretty short. Whats your HOC?

You'll see that green grass 'spread' into the brown areas as that healthy grass starts to grab morning dew.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 22 guests