Curious about Rye grass and Trivialis

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Curious about Rye grass and Trivialis

Post by Masbustelo » May 12th, 2021, 9:08 pm

Regarding Rye grass and it's being allelopathic. As an observation I can't remember reading a thread where someone with a Rye grass monostand is fighting Trivialis. Will Rye grass defeat Trivialis? Would it be possible to do a rye grass renovation for several years , and then another renovation to KBG down the road, using the Rye to defeat Trivialis? Pipe dream?
I had a Rye lawn with a 125 year old home. The lawn had never been taken care of and was basically weed free.

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Re: Curious about Rye grass and Trivialis

Post by andy10917 » May 12th, 2021, 9:35 pm

I have asked similar questions, but after a lot of thought I came to the conclusion that there are too many possible reasons why that "seems to be true". In a monostand or great-mix KBG lawn, the darkness and even makes Triv stand out like a sore thumb. If PR were the answer, I would strongly expect the sports field crowd to have figured it out by now.

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Re: Curious about Rye grass and Trivialis

Post by MorpheusPA » May 12th, 2021, 10:20 pm

As far as allelopathy goes, I've come to the conclusion that it follows a law similar to Murphy's. "It's allelopathic until you need it to be."

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Re: Curious about Rye grass and Trivialis

Post by Masbustelo » May 13th, 2021, 8:13 pm

I found a technical report that said commercial perennial rye growers have big problems wit trivialis. It mentioned about 20 herbicides they use for suppression. None of which are very effective.

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Re: Curious about Rye grass and Trivialis

Post by umbo514 » May 13th, 2021, 8:32 pm

My backyard is PR PhD blend... I can tell you that there is definitely Poa Trivialis here and there.

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