Brown patch or drought stress?

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Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by trussin » June 24th, 2016, 1:25 pm

I have multiple areas of my celebration that have died pretty quickly (over the course of a couple weeks). We had a very wet spring, but the heat and dry air arrived about a month ago. I'm not watering 1" weekly, but rather watching for indicator areas to tell when the lawn needs watering (at which time I run the irrigation system, applying about 3/4"). Overall the bermuda looks good. I shampooed before watering on Tuesday/Wednesday.

What I thought were indicator spots in previous years (primarily due to shallower soil) started showing stress several weeks ago. I applied compost/coffee grounds, shampoo, and some compost tea. Some of these spots bounced back or experienced new growth. But the brown areas are expanding and showing up in areas that I previously have not experienced problems. Screwdriver goes in easily in some areas, and with difficulty in others. I did the paper check for cinch bugs but did not see anything. I treated for grubs in the spring with nematodes (while I've seen a few around, I've never found a substantial amount when digging - I have not checked so this summer). I have brought my HOC up to 1.5" for the summer, and mow about twice a week, alternating between a reel and rotary. Two-thirds rule is violated occasionally, but not usually.

Area that is beginning to brown:
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New area with two of four largest areas of collapse in background:
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Close-up of above - Cheap moisture meter showing decent moisture at 2" in (and it's wetter at 4"):
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Blade closeup from above:
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A few more close-ups in following post.

What next? I prefer organics, but fear that this is going to be a widespread problem. I appreciate the advice and wisdom.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by trussin » June 24th, 2016, 1:25 pm

A few more close-ups:
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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by gwolf64 » June 24th, 2016, 1:43 pm

It does not look like brown patch to me. I would water it at 1" per week less natural precipitation.

I feel like a milo + water solves everything. ha. :rotfl:

I use the link below to ID most lawn issues. They have a good example of brown patch.

https://www.scottslawnservice.com/sls/b ... 20400010-s

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by Spammage » June 24th, 2016, 2:38 pm

I will say that I doubt very seriously that this is a water issue. I have only had to water a few times here in DFW and I think you guys have probably had just as much rain (if not more) than we have.

I see the screwdriver and the moisture meter, so I am guessing this isn't an issue with buried treas...debris under the surface. I would do the soap test to see what if any bugs you get to the surface. We have been to warm lately for me to think this is a fungal issue.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by SimonR » June 24th, 2016, 5:11 pm

I would echo the insect test.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by trussin » June 24th, 2016, 6:10 pm

I'll try the soap test tomorrow morning and report back. Thanks, all!

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by trussin » June 25th, 2016, 10:09 am

I did not find any grubs in a one square foot area, but could check more areas.

The soap drench test very quickly flushed at least 10 bugs in a 3 SF area with both brown and green grass. See images below. I haven't been able to identify them, but don't think they are mole crickets or chinch bugs. Are they some kind of beetle?

What's the best course of action? I didn't see anything in the articles or FAQs. I'd like to keep the solution as benign as possible, but also want to address this ASAP.

Thanks!! Sorry for the quality of the phone pics.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by booneatl » June 25th, 2016, 10:14 am

We get japanese beetles that look similar to these.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by SimonR » June 25th, 2016, 10:21 am

In my area we get African black beetles, which in adult form don't cause too much of a drama, but the larvae wreak havoc munching on the roots near the surface. If you gently pull on the brown areas does the stem simply pull out of the ground?

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by trussin » June 25th, 2016, 10:43 am

SimonR, less than half of the stems pull right out. I'm not pulling large clumps out overall. Root system seems to be in good shape, and I have new growth in affected spots (it is bermuda after all).

I found an old post by Tony alony mentioning scarab beetles in Texas - they look similar to what I found.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by Southernguy311 » June 25th, 2016, 2:36 pm

It's def beetle time.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by TSGarp007 » June 25th, 2016, 4:08 pm

Have you treated for bugs already? I had a similar situation with my st. Augustine grass (thread is in this forum). Talstar didn't phase them . Arena did, or at least they were mostly gone shortly after applying Arena. Not saying to do what I did, I'm no expert, but at the very least I feel your pain.

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Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by trussin » June 25th, 2016, 6:55 pm

TSGarp, I've not seen that thread. Does it contain recommendations on treatment for beetles? I'd hoped to use granular treatment but my nearly full bag of Bayer grub control doesn't mention beetles.

Edit - I found your thread. Did you have to order arena online?

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by TSGarp007 » June 25th, 2016, 8:39 pm

Yes I ordered it online. But I saw it later at my local Ace Hardware. It was over $10 cheaper online per bag.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by TSGarp007 » June 25th, 2016, 8:49 pm

What is the active ingredient in the Bayer? Trichlorfon? It may not kill the beetle but isn't the grub an immature stage of beetle? Hopefully someone with more experience helps you out but I don't see how the arena could hurt, if you're willing to spend that much. Some beetles may not feed on grass even though their grubs do, so I suppose you may see them even after arena, but hopefully the next generation gets shwacked.

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by trussin » June 26th, 2016, 1:02 pm

Active ingredient is Imidacloprid, and it may help control the adult beetles. I don't know either if they are feeding on the grass, or if it's the grubs, but I'll apply it before my watering day and keep my fingers crossed that it works!

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Post by TSGarp007 » June 26th, 2016, 2:16 pm

That's a systemic insecticide (like arena). You could also apply something like this also, maybe just in the regions of your yard with damage.

https://www.bayeradvanced.com/find-a-pr ... iller-plus

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by trussin » June 26th, 2016, 2:46 pm

Great - pretty sure I've seen that at the big box home improvement store. Thanks for the help!! Hope your yard recovers rapidly from your infestation. My damaged areas already have some new growth, but there's more spots that are showing the same decline. I may push up my watering day so that I can apply sooner!

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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by TboneBlue13 » June 26th, 2016, 9:12 pm

On this same topic...I came home this weekend to find large brown streaks in the Bermuda in the back yard. It's been hot and dry the last few weeks so I watered about .75" in the afternoon before I left for the weekend (no irrigation system for me). When I got back today I found these streaks! Unfortunately I have been shirking my watering lately...

My thought was drought stress may have led to some sort of fungus? Thoughts?
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Re: Brown patch or drought stress?

Post by J_nick » June 26th, 2016, 11:10 pm

Tbone that is odd. Is there a underground drainage pipe for rainwater that goes through your backyard? It's weird how straight it is and the width stays the same also running towards the street. I would get a metal rod and probe around and see if you hit something.

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