Need help to Lower PH
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Need help to Lower PH
Hello all, quick question. I had soil test done last year (July) and will have new ones done in a few weeks before spring. I noticed I have high PH in my front yard (7.2 where it should be 5.8-6.5). I also have some areas that need it raised a bit, but I can add lime to raise the PH level. Not really sure how to lower it across the lawn.
I have bermuda grass and prob around 3.5-4k front yard.
Thanks for the help!
I have bermuda grass and prob around 3.5-4k front yard.
Thanks for the help!
- 1977212
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Re: Need help to Lower PH
Post the soil test
- MorpheusPA
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Re: Need help to Lower PH
For the most part, directly lowering pH isn't workable. Sulfur is sometimes recommended, but it's generally ineffective and simply outgasses to the atmosphere as sulfur dioxide (smog).
That having been said, a longer-term and gentler method might serve. When feeding, use something where the nitrogen source is urea, which is gently acidifying under some circumstances. For even more effect, use ammonium sulfate instead (although that's much more expensive per unit of nitrogen).
Over time, it may bring your pH down--but even that depends on what the excess alkaline material is, and how much of it there is. Some soils are pretty much hopeless.
Fortunately, even if yours is, 7.2 is no barrier to a great lawn. It's not out of reasonable range, and won't cause too many issues. Iron availability would be the worst one I could think of offhand, and that can be solved by using Milorganite or chelated iron.
That having been said, a longer-term and gentler method might serve. When feeding, use something where the nitrogen source is urea, which is gently acidifying under some circumstances. For even more effect, use ammonium sulfate instead (although that's much more expensive per unit of nitrogen).
Over time, it may bring your pH down--but even that depends on what the excess alkaline material is, and how much of it there is. Some soils are pretty much hopeless.
Fortunately, even if yours is, 7.2 is no barrier to a great lawn. It's not out of reasonable range, and won't cause too many issues. Iron availability would be the worst one I could think of offhand, and that can be solved by using Milorganite or chelated iron.
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Re: Need help to Lower PH
Thanks Morpheus, I read somewhere that milo may help too. I regularly use that so I may see how it does gradually. My lawn looked great last year and I expect it to this year, I am just trying to get it zeroed in to where its easy to maintain except cutting. I have some area's in the back that are low in PH but that is less of a concern as I can add lime and raise it some.
1977212 - Ill try to post the soil test in the forum soon, I dont have access to them right now.
Thanks!
1977212 - Ill try to post the soil test in the forum soon, I dont have access to them right now.
Thanks!
- HoosierLawnGnome
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Re: Need help to Lower PH
If you post a soil test to this forum and want advice, use Logan Labs and follow the guidelines in the forum.
Morpheus is dead on - not a lot you can do about lowering pH (especially in somewhat cooler environments), and it's not a huge deal anyways for most. Heck, I had a 7.8 - 7.9 pH on a previous lawn that looked pretty good - silty loam with lots of free Ca.
Morpheus is dead on - not a lot you can do about lowering pH (especially in somewhat cooler environments), and it's not a huge deal anyways for most. Heck, I had a 7.8 - 7.9 pH on a previous lawn that looked pretty good - silty loam with lots of free Ca.
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Re: Need help to Lower PH
Thanks Hoosier, yeah my soil test was from my local COOP so I would need to send samples to logan. I may do that in a few weeks when I pull new samples.
- andy10917
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Re: Need help to Lower PH
Be very cautious about all lawn care advice that "I read somewhere" -- vast amounts of it are so wrong that you might be better doing exactly the opposite of what people say.I read somewhere that milo may help too.
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