Milorganite application frequency
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Milorganite application frequency
In the past I've put down 1/2 bag rate, x8 applications over the year. My logic was that pacing the addition of organics to the soil would help keep everything nice and steady/balanced. Is there an advantage that I am missing by doing 4x at bag rate? Other than possible time savings?
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
The steady/balanced approach has merit. I have gone as crazy as 2X bag rate weekly - ummm, let's say the grass grows and is healthy and thick.
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
Last year, I tried the 1/2 bag rate using the same logic to "spoon feed" my lawn. I achieved satisfactory results, but not the desired results. It was also difficult for me to stay on a schedule with that frequency. I also conducted an unscientific mini-experiment in three locations in my yard. I sprinkled a high dosage of Vitamin M in a small donut and reapplied about 2-3 times throughout the season. It appears that the microherd processed everything. The visual results were incredible! There was no burn and I can still see a difference as of today. I will be applying at bag rate this year and a little more often as time and the budget allows. I know now why some of our fellow enthusiasts lay it down heavy and often. I just wish True Value would bring back their sale again. They didn't have it last year, but their regular price is $1 less per bag than the big box stores.
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
To clarify, I will end up applying the same total amount of M over the season. Just trying to determine if there is a benefit to 8 applications vs 4.
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
It's slow release so my guess is that doing 8 apps won't be any more successful than doing 4 (given you put down the same amount either way). But that's just my thought. 4 seems a lot easier to manage too so take that into account.
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
A good fraction of Milorganite is water-soluble nitrogen (relatively fast release), so 8 half apps will always provide more consistent feeding for the grass then 4 full apps. Only you can decide if the incremental improvement is worth your time.
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
TimmyG, can you find on the label where there is any water soluble nitrogen? I don't see it. The label says it is all dried sludge which is "slow release."
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
I don't think there is an advantage to spreading it out. At the extreme if you have a 150 day growing season, then you would divide up the application into 150 parts and apply that part every day. Would that be advantageous? I can't see how.
If you applied the entire year's worth of Milorganite all at one time, that would be a time saver. The microbes will process the product and hold it until the plants need it. As long as you stay below 80 pounds per 1,000 square feet in one application, you should be good to go. I think 80 pounds is where you might be smothering the grass. Normal for Milorganite is 15 pounds per 1,000 square feet.
If you applied the entire year's worth of Milorganite all at one time, that would be a time saver. The microbes will process the product and hold it until the plants need it. As long as you stay below 80 pounds per 1,000 square feet in one application, you should be good to go. I think 80 pounds is where you might be smothering the grass. Normal for Milorganite is 15 pounds per 1,000 square feet.
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
Milorganite.com pages such as this and this. And the Guaranteed Analysis should be on the back label of every bag showing the fraction of nitrogen that is WSN vs WIN, such as shown in this thread.Dchall_San_Antonio wrote: ↑May 4th, 2018, 6:20 pmTimmyG, can you find on the label where there is any water soluble nitrogen? I don't see it. The label says it is all dried sludge which is "slow release."
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
Milorganite has a percentage of water soluble nitrogen. The most recent analysis has it at ~30%. The reality is that it varies based on what is coming into the plant from the waste water. I try to keep the applied water soluble Nitrogen below 1 lb/1000 sq ft to be safe. That is still 2-3x the recommended application rate.
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
I don't fully understand water soluble nitrogen...What are the implications of exceeding 1 lb /1000 in your example?
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Re: Milorganite application frequency
Think of water soluble as fast release. The nitrogen becomes available very soon after getting wet. It's as simple as that. Too much WSN at once can lead to burning or leaching or both. Google-fu of "water soluble nitrogen" results in this good explanation: Understanding Nitrogen Sources.
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