Type of Mix Seeds I could use
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Type of Mix Seeds I could use
Hello Everyone,
I need your help to decide what type of seeds I should use for reseeding. I have been seeding past 2 years and spring time my grass is nice and thick. soon as summer starts my lawn starts dieing since my lawn is under full sun.
Seeds I been using past 2 years
CLUBHOUSE MIX: Our best bluegrass mix without the fescue.
The choice of turf professionals for full sun locations. 40% bluegrass 60% fine textured perennial ryegrass all proprietary seed.
any expert out there that could tell me what type of mix I should use to keep my lawn nice and green?
Thank You,
I need your help to decide what type of seeds I should use for reseeding. I have been seeding past 2 years and spring time my grass is nice and thick. soon as summer starts my lawn starts dieing since my lawn is under full sun.
Seeds I been using past 2 years
CLUBHOUSE MIX: Our best bluegrass mix without the fescue.
The choice of turf professionals for full sun locations. 40% bluegrass 60% fine textured perennial ryegrass all proprietary seed.
any expert out there that could tell me what type of mix I should use to keep my lawn nice and green?
Thank You,
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
I would check the label to see if there is any weed or other crop present. I costs more to get seed with neither of these but in the scheme of things it’s worth it (at least to me). Bewitched KBG did very well in the Rutgers NTEP tests down the street from you. You could find another KBG or a PR to match up with it. All depends on your level of interest, budget, etc.
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
While the grass seed determines just how far the "top condition" can go, it's the irrigation and mowing height that are the secret sauce of Summer. That said, PR has a stronger tendency to go dormant in the Summer. It is not dead, unless it got no water.
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
I agree with Andy. The grass is likely not dead, but rather just dormant in those brown areas. I think it is likely to come back once water and cooler days return.
What is your watering plan during the summer? If not providing supplemental watering at all, that lawn doesn't look horrible. Actually, it looks very similar to the one next door and the one across the street...
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
I do have irrigation system installed in my lawn. I water daily in the morning and evening 20 mins per zone (7 zones ) and mowing height during summer is 4 inches due to the summer heat and 3 inch in fall.. I agree that PR goes dormant after the temperate reaches 80 degrees + Since 60 % of the seeds are PR.
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
Looks like we don't live far from each other. I live right off Ext 10 on 287.Pway wrote: ↑August 27th, 2019, 5:35 pmI would check the label to see if there is any weed or other crop present. I costs more to get seed with neither of these but in the scheme of things it’s worth it (at least to me). Bewitched KBG did very well in the Rutgers NTEP tests down the street from you. You could find another KBG or a PR to match up with it. All depends on your level of interest, budget, etc.
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
I have a PR lawn in back and no irrigation in that area and mine does not go dormant.
Based on what you have said you need to do at least two things differently: stop the cycle of spring seeding and transition to deeper and less frequent watering.
Now is the best time to seed - mother nature is on your side.
20 minutes per zone twice a day is probably only enough water to penetrate the very top layer of soil. You want to water enough so that the moisture gets down into the root zone of your lawn - 4" or so. Depending on how much water your system is putting out, the condition of your soil, rainfall, slopes, etc that might mean watering each zone for an hour or two or even longer once or twice a week. The rule of thumb is to give it 1 inch of water a week mostly all at once. But that would vary depending on those other factors. You don't want it running off or pooling. But I bet that improving your watering habits will improve your outcomes more than changing your grass type will.
Also, you want to avoid putting down a lot of fertilizer in the spring and summer. Fall is when it should get most of its food.
Good luck
Based on what you have said you need to do at least two things differently: stop the cycle of spring seeding and transition to deeper and less frequent watering.
Now is the best time to seed - mother nature is on your side.
20 minutes per zone twice a day is probably only enough water to penetrate the very top layer of soil. You want to water enough so that the moisture gets down into the root zone of your lawn - 4" or so. Depending on how much water your system is putting out, the condition of your soil, rainfall, slopes, etc that might mean watering each zone for an hour or two or even longer once or twice a week. The rule of thumb is to give it 1 inch of water a week mostly all at once. But that would vary depending on those other factors. You don't want it running off or pooling. But I bet that improving your watering habits will improve your outcomes more than changing your grass type will.
Also, you want to avoid putting down a lot of fertilizer in the spring and summer. Fall is when it should get most of its food.
Good luck
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
Thank you Schreibdave for your suggestion. After I am done reseeding this year I am planning on buying Rain Gauge to help me determinant how long it takes to irrigate water 1 inch. Do you have any suggestion when to water it? morning vs afternoon or evening?schreibdave wrote: ↑August 28th, 2019, 11:43 amI have a PR lawn in back and no irrigation in that area and mine does not go dormant.
Based on what you have said you need to do at least two things differently: stop the cycle of spring seeding and transition to deeper and less frequent watering.
Now is the best time to seed - mother nature is on your side.
20 minutes per zone twice a day is probably only enough water to penetrate the very top layer of soil. You want to water enough so that the moisture gets down into the root zone of your lawn - 4" or so. Depending on how much water your system is putting out, the condition of your soil, rainfall, slopes, etc that might mean watering each zone for an hour or two or even longer once or twice a week. The rule of thumb is to give it 1 inch of water a week mostly all at once. But that would vary depending on those other factors. You don't want it running off or pooling. But I bet that improving your watering habits will improve your outcomes more than changing your grass type will.
Also, you want to avoid putting down a lot of fertilizer in the spring and summer. Fall is when it should get most of its food.
Good luck
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
Small world. I’m off River Road and 287.DTheMan wrote: ↑August 28th, 2019, 8:22 amLooks like we don't live far from each other. I live right off Ext 10 on 287.Pway wrote: ↑August 27th, 2019, 5:35 pmI would check the label to see if there is any weed or other crop present. I costs more to get seed with neither of these but in the scheme of things it’s worth it (at least to me). Bewitched KBG did very well in the Rutgers NTEP tests down the street from you. You could find another KBG or a PR to match up with it. All depends on your level of interest, budget, etc.
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
Instead of buying a rain gauge you could use tuna cans or any flat bottomed and straight sided containers.I am planning on buying Rain Gauge to help me determinant how long it takes to irrigate water 1 inch. Do you have any suggestion when to water it? morning vs afternoon or evening?
I think the best time to water is early morning and finish up by 9am or so. It's good to try to avoid those times of day when it is windy and when the sun is beating down.
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
Milorganite will send you a free rain gauge if you write them a testimonial. https://www.milorganite.com/testimonial ... estimonialschreibdave wrote: ↑August 29th, 2019, 2:21 pmInstead of buying a rain gauge you could use tuna cans or any flat bottomed and straight sided containers.I am planning on buying Rain Gauge to help me determinant how long it takes to irrigate water 1 inch. Do you have any suggestion when to water it? morning vs afternoon or evening?
I think the best time to water is early morning and finish up by 9am or so. It's good to try to avoid those times of day when it is windy and when the sun is beating down.
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
Hi agn015agn015 wrote: ↑August 29th, 2019, 3:07 pmMilorganite will send you a free rain gauge if you write them a testimonial. https://www.milorganite.com/testimonial ... estimonialschreibdave wrote: ↑August 29th, 2019, 2:21 pmInstead of buying a rain gauge you could use tuna cans or any flat bottomed and straight sided containers.I am planning on buying Rain Gauge to help me determinant how long it takes to irrigate water 1 inch. Do you have any suggestion when to water it? morning vs afternoon or evening?
I think the best time to water is early morning and finish up by 9am or so. It's good to try to avoid those times of day when it is windy and when the sun is beating down.
Thank you for the information. I been using Milo for past 2 years and during spring time the lawn looks great. After reading all the suggesting I think watering could be the issue causing my lawn to go dormant.
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Re: Type of Mix Seeds I could use
For doing an "irrigation audit" it is helpful to have multiple gauges. Personally, I'd suggest this 10-pack as being inexpensive, easy to use, and reasonably accurate: (A little cheaper to buy directly from the manufacturer, but I've also included an Amazon link for convenience.)
- https://www.nrgideas.com/ten-pack-1-5-r ... ring-tool/
- https://www.amazon.com/Sprinkler-Bright ... wnforum-20
Personally, I try to have my watering start at whatever time it needs to start to get the required amount of water down, and still end before there's much direct sunlight to evaporate the water away and before the sun's heat starts generating wind. I shoot for the watering finishing about 7:00am to 8:00am. In order to get 0.4" down by that time of day, I need to start watering at 12:15am. Easy to do with an irrigation controller - not so easy if using manual sprinklers.
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